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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"I doubt he will play FB there with Gutho.'"
They are saying Gutho to centre given Jennings is going to be banned.
Interesting to see them linked with Roberts in the last few days though.
That will maybe work in our favour, yes I’m clutching at straws!
If they do sign Roberts though I don’t think they will also sign French.
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| It was encouraging to hear Lammy say we’re not giving up on keeping him. It sounded like we still think there’s a chance and I really hope there is. He is sublime and as Wigan fans we’ve not had enough opportunities to watch him in the flesh. I know it’s ridiculous but I can’t help wonder if we could come to some sort of arrangement that allows him to have a few weeks at home mid season. That feels ridiculous typing it but if there are ways if facilitating him staying, we’d be daft not to look at them.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It was encouraging to hear Lammy say we’re not giving up on keeping him. It sounded like we still think there’s a chance and I really hope there is. He is sublime and as Wigan fans we’ve not had enough opportunities to watch him in the flesh. I know it’s ridiculous but I can’t help wonder if we could come to some sort of arrangement that allows him to have a few weeks at home mid season. That feels ridiculous typing it but if there are ways if facilitating him staying, we’d be daft not to look at them.'"
For me the signing of Field in reality confirms he is gone, despite my comment above about the Parramatta move.
Field won’t be on peanuts given Leeds were in for him too and I just don’t see him coming here as a 6.
I hope I’m wrong.
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| Quote ="jonh"For me the signing of Field in reality confirms he is gone, despite my comment above the Parramatta move.
Field won’t be on peanuts given Leeds were in for him too and I just don’t see him coming here as a 6.
I hope I’m wrong.'"
Has that been confirmed?
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Has that been confirmed?'"
Not officially.
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| Quote ="jonh"For me the signing of Field in reality confirms he is gone, despite my comment above about the Parramatta move.
Field won’t be on peanuts given Leeds were in for him too and I just don’t see him coming here as a 6.
I hope I’m wrong.'"
I agree he’s probably going. It feels like there’s a 5-10% chance of him staying but every so often those sort of chances come in. I think we just need to presume he’s going and work on anything else being a bonus.
What amazes me with French is that he’s struggled to hold a spot in the NRL. It’s a crazy league the NRL. There is so much quality in it but there’s also a number of players who seem to have stolen a living and then a number of players like French who seem to just get left out in the cold when they’re freakish athletes.
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| 2nd French try will be talked about for years to come, not many others like that in recent years. Really enjoyed tonight,
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| Quote ="endoman"2nd French try will be talked about for years to come, not many others like that in recent years. Really enjoyed tonight,'"
It was outrageous. He scored a similar one against Catalans at home last season in one of his first games for us but it wasn’t as far out. He broke the line and had two defenders in front of him, one thinks he’s going on the outside, the other thinks he’ll come inside and he just shuffles his feet and walks In-between the pair of them.
He’ll leave a legacy behind now whatever happens.
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| Great French try but Salford were done post CC.
I wouldn't get too carried away.....
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| Quote ="Shabino"Great French try but Salford were done post CC.
I wouldn't get too carried away.....'"
The past 10 or 11 CC losing finalists have won their next game. It was mentioned during commentary.
So not really par for the course.
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| I appreciate I sound like a broken record but what better opportunity for Greenwood to shine tonight? Especially given how dominant we were when he came on.
Every time he got the ball in his hands he looked to be going in slow motion.
He looks to be carrying too much weight and in my opinion again offered next to nothing.
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| I've said before that I'd much rather have French than Field. I remember French playing for Parramatta and he didn't do too much wrong, just that they had an exceptional talent in Gutherson; I can't believe the talk that they'd waste him (Gutherson) at centre. Would love to see French stay. Two covering defenders, leave them grasping at thin air and dot it down under the posts; that's Shaun Johnson stuff. Wonderful to watch.
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| Quote ="jonh"I appreciate I sound like a broken record but what better opportunity for Greenwood to shine tonight? Especially given how dominant we were when he came on.
Every time he got the ball in his hands he looked to be going in slow motion.
He looks to be carrying too much weight and in my opinion again offered next to nothing.'"
Did nothing wrong jonh
Hes been pretty good since the restart
Isa had thebquitest game I think I've ver seen him have, but that doesnt mean I'd come on here and have a go after a 50point win
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Did nothing wrong jonh
Hes been pretty good since the restart
Isa had thebquitest game I think I've ver seen him have, but that doesnt mean I'd come on here and have a go after a 50point win'"
I saw the OP and just scrolled on. It's selective praise/criticism with some - neither Greenwood or Isa did much right or wrong.
Speaking of other guys who get no knocked...
I thought Burgess and Bibby both played well. Burgess showed some good pace to get past Watkins and slip the ball back to Faz for his 1st. Thought he showed plenty of enthusiasm in defence too. Bibby also put a shift in and was almost Davies or Sarge like with his first hit up carries. Great break for French's first try too.
I know others disagree, but I'm struggling to think of any club who could call on quality like that for their 3rd and 4th choice winger options.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"I saw the OP and just scrolled on. It's selective praise/criticism with some - neither Greenwood or Isa did much right or wrong.
Speaking of other guys who get no knocked...
I thought Burgess and Bibby both played well. Burgess showed some good pace to get past Watkins and slip the ball back to Faz for his 1st. Thought he showed plenty of enthusiasm in defence too. Bibby also put a shift in and was almost Davies or Sarge like with his first hit up carries. Great break for French's first try too.
I know others disagree, but I'm struggling to think of any club who could call on quality like that for their 3rd and 4th choice winger options.'"
Another quote of mine from our WhatsApp group
Apart from that dropped ball Budgie been great
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| Burgess has shown signs of getting back to his best this season. His pace looks to be back and he’s building his confidence up.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I agree he’s probably going. It feels like there’s a 5-10% chance of him staying but every so often those sort of chances come in. I think we just need to presume he’s going and work on anything else being a bonus.
What amazes me with French is that he’s struggled to hold a spot in the NRL. It’s a crazy league the NRL. There is so much quality in it but there’s also a number of players who seem to have stolen a living and then a number of players like French who seem to just get left out in the cold when they’re freakish athletes.'"
I’m going to come in with an unpopular opinion here. But I don’t think French is good enough for NRL. He isn’t particularly skilful in terms of passing/kicking. He’s very fast and has a great step, but he isn’t the biggest/strongest and defences are generally better in the NRL than Super League.
I think he’s at his level right now if I’m honest. I see him as someone like a Amos Roberts or George Carmont who were never top NRL players, but were excellent in Super League.
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| [list[/list:u Quote ="JWarriors"I’m going to come in with an unpopular opinion here. But I don’t think French is good enough for NRL. He isn’t particularly skilful in terms of passing/kicking. He’s very fast and has a great step, but he isn’t the biggest/strongest and defences are generally better in the NRL than Super League.
I think he’s at his level right now if I’m honest. I see him as someone like a Amos Roberts or George Carmont who were never top NRL players, but were excellent in Super League.'"
Completely agree with this . Also don’t think he would shine in a tight playoff game / final . Hope I’m proven wrong.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Did nothing wrong jonh
Hes been pretty good since the restart
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Can we at least have a go at BFUT?
I know it was his first game back but still...
5 carries for 30 metres
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Can we at least have a go at BFUT?
I know it was his first game back but still...
5 carries for 30 metres
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And Singleton (first start since March):
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25 tackles, 2 missed'"
I'm under orders to lay off BFUT
Hes been seen posting a picture with a t-shirt that says "End Hate crime" and think hes aimingnthat at me.
Don't forget he pressured the kicker for the French try
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It was encouraging to hear Lammy say we’re not giving up on keeping him. It sounded like we still think there’s a chance and I really hope there is. He is sublime and as Wigan fans we’ve not had enough opportunities to watch him in the flesh. I know it’s ridiculous but I can’t help wonder if we could come to some sort of arrangement that allows him to have a few weeks at home mid season. That feels ridiculous typing it but if there are ways if facilitating him staying, we’d be daft not to look at them.'"
For me, French confirmed he'd signed for Parra in his post-match interview. Absolute textbook example of how to lie and dodge a question badly.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Can we at least have a go at BFUT?
I know it was his first game back but still...
5 carries for 30 metres
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And Singleton (first start since March):
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Do you know how many minutes our props did?
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| Quote ="JWarriors"I’m going to come in with an unpopular opinion here. But I don’t think French is good enough for NRL. He isn’t particularly skilful in terms of passing/kicking. He’s very fast and has a great step, but he isn’t the biggest/strongest and defences are generally better in the NRL than Super League.
I think he’s at his level right now if I’m honest. I see him as someone like a Amos Roberts or George Carmont who were never top NRL players, but were excellent in Super League.'"
Depends what you mean by ‘good enough for the NRL’. If you mean good enough as in good enough to play in the NRL, then he’s more than good enough. If you mean good enough as in would he terrorise teams like last night, then he’s probably not but not many are. What I never like to buy in to is this opinion that some British fans seem to have (I’m not saying you’re one by the way) that the NRL is full of super humans and that there are very few players over here who could manage to play in that competition. It really isn’t and we’ve seen plenty of examples recently of decent superleague players going over and excelling. Guys like Sutton, Hodgson, Cooper, Whitehead etc weren’t considered top players in their positions over here but all have smashed it in the NRL.
Going back to French, it may be as a winger or it may be at fullback but the guy has more than enough talent to hold a place in the NRL. Why he didn’t before stumps me. Maybe he lost confidence, maybe he’s just developed his game now or he may just have realised what he’s give up and has buckled down but I’ve seen some real average lads playing on the wings in the NRL this year and he’d walk in ahead of those guys. You compare him to Carmont and Amos Roberts and it’s probably a good comparison (especially Roberts) but you ask could he play in the NRL? Well both of those guys did and to a good standard, so French like those two could as well. Just checked and Amos Roberts scored 108 try’s in 177 NRL games so I wouldn’t downplay what a good player he was over there.
He is better suited to this league though and fingers crossed we pull off a miracle and keep him.
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| Quote ="JWarriors"I’m going to come in with an unpopular opinion here. But I don’t think French is good enough for NRL. He isn’t particularly skilful in terms of passing/kicking. He’s very fast and has a great step, but he isn’t the biggest/strongest and defences are generally better in the NRL than Super League.
I think he’s at his level right now if I’m honest. I see him as someone like a Amos Roberts or George Carmont who were never top NRL players, but were excellent in Super League.'"
Roberts was a top NRL player
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Depends what you mean by ‘good enough for the NRL’. If you mean good enough as in good enough to play in the NRL, then he’s more than good enough. If you mean good enough as in would he terrorise teams like last night, then he’s probably not but not many are. What I never like to buy in to is this opinion that some British fans seem to have (I’m not saying you’re one by the way) that the NRL is full of super humans and that there are very few players over here who could manage to play in that competition. It really isn’t and we’ve seen plenty of examples recently of decent superleague players going over and excelling. Guys like Sutton, Hodgson, Cooper, Whitehead etc weren’t considered top players in their positions over here but all have smashed it in the NRL.
Going back to French, it may be as a winger or it may be at fullback but the guy has more than enough talent to hold a place in the NRL. Why he didn’t before stumps me. Maybe he lost confidence, maybe he’s just developed his game now or he may just have realised what he’s give up and has buckled down but I’ve seen some real average lads playing on the wings in the NRL this year and he’d walk in ahead of those guys. You compare him to Carmont and Amos Roberts and it’s probably a good comparison (especially Roberts) but you ask could he play in the NRL? Well both of those guys did and to a good standard, so French like those two could as well. Just checked and Amos Roberts scored 108 try’s in 177 NRL games so I wouldn’t downplay what a good player he was over there.
He is better suited to this league though and fingers crossed we pull off a miracle and keep him.'"
I think he'd struggle if they stick him on the wing - he'd be physically out matched by bigger and stronger players. It's almost a pre-requisite to be a man mountain on the wing over there. I think Iv seen reports/interviews saying he was frustrated being picked on the wing and he was always looking for a chance to play fullback. He also got slated for one particular performance where he only made one or two carries in the whole game.
Pick him at full back and he'll stand out even in the NRL but it would be a risk to go to Parramatta knowing who he has to displace. If he doesnt start well he might end up getting stuck out on the wing again.
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