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Lowest black unemployment in history. The fact that you would try to deny Trump any credit for an HISTORIC achievement under his Presidency, tells its own story.
First Step Act, something past Presidents promised at election time to get the black vote and failed to deliver once they were in office.
Funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities, his administration in one year alone appropriated more money to HBCUs than any other president, and he has taken steps to establish the Presidential Board of Advisors on HBCUs, as requested by community leaders.
Opportunity Zones helping put a priority on rebuilding and bettering many African American communities that have long been forgotten under prior administrations.
If any other President had done a fraction of this, he would be hailed as the next MLK.
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Lowest black unemployment in history. The fact that you would try to deny Trump any credit for an HISTORIC achievement under his Presidency, tells its own story.
First Step Act, something past Presidents promised at election time to get the black vote and failed to deliver once they were in office.
Funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities, his administration in one year alone appropriated more money to HBCUs than any other president, and he has taken steps to establish the Presidential Board of Advisors on HBCUs, as requested by community leaders.
Opportunity Zones helping put a priority on rebuilding and bettering many African American communities that have long been forgotten under prior administrations.
If any other President had done a fraction of this, he would be hailed as the next MLK.
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To kneel means you are subservient, not equal.
Politics and sport shouldn't mix.
I will be boycotting the club from now on until either the club or players show some backbone and not kneel and just get on with playing rugby, or until every member of yesterdays squad that knelt leaves the club. I've got strong views on the subject but I'll refrain from saying them because this is a 'Rugby League' forum and politics and sport should not mix.
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| Quote ="CyberPieMan"My, my. Lots of Trump supporting conspiracy theorists around today. I'd suggest a trip back to '50s America & chum up with your pal McCarthy.'"
Or back to the the post war USSR with good old Joseph Stalin. |
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal":1ry9afcf"CyberPieMan"My, my. Lots of Trump supporting conspiracy theorists around today. I'd suggest a trip back to '50s America & chum up with your pal McCarthy.'"
Spot on, but the left don't like reason and logic. |
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Three newspapers
Three newspapers/newsagency which have always been a thorn in every Republican Presidents side.
A bit like the Daily Mirror and the Guardian here with a Conservative Prime Minister.
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Three newspapers
Three newspapers/newsagency which have always been a thorn in every Republican Presidents side.
A bit like the Daily Mirror and the Guardian here with a Conservative Prime Minister.
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| Quote ="post"To kneel means you are subservient, not equal.
Politics and sport shouldn't mix.
I will be boycotting the club from now on until either the club or players show some backbone and not kneel and just get on with playing rugby, or until every member of yesterdays squad that knelt leaves the club. I've got strong views on the subject but I'll refrain from saying them because this is a 'Rugby League' forum and politics and sport should not mix.'"
You won't be missed.
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Why do so many people miss the point that "taking a knee" is not the same as kneeling before someone?
I can only assume that it is deliberate.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Three newspapers
Three newspapers/newsagency which have always been a thorn in every Republican Presidents side.
A bit like the Daily Mirror and the Guardian here with a Conservative Prime Minister.'"
Fact checking is a 'thorn in the side'?  Ok. |
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Stop the world. I want to get off.
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| Quote ="secondstanza"You won't be missed.
You expect players who want to kneel to not kneel because it doesn't match with your own personal political beliefs but similarly expect those who choose to not kneel to be above question. You are a complete hypocrite.'"
Who are you to say who will and won't be missed?
Every fan who fails to turn up for a game will be missed, or fails to put money into the club is missed.
The club should have stayed out of identity politics. What next? A little bagde to be worn on the sleeve to say they voted remain, or voted Labour? |
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| Quote ="post"Who are you to say who will and won't be missed?
Every fan who fails to turn up for a game will be missed, or fails to put money into the club is missed.
The club should have stayed out of identity politics.'"
So should the various countries sports bodies have "stayed out" of politics and let South Africa carry on with their racist policies?
Ask Billy Boston what he thought of what happened to him on the 1954 tour that was returning and playing an exhibition game in South Africa. |
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"So should the various countries sports bodies have "stayed out" of politics and let South Africa carry on with their racist policies?
Ask Billy Boston what he thought of what happened to him on the 1954 tour that was returning and playing an exhibition game in South Africa.'"
Should the England football team Sieg Heiled before a game with Germany in the 1930s?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Why do so many people miss the point that "taking a knee" is not the same as kneeling before someone?
I can only assume that it is deliberate.'"
Of course it is. They don't like it because it's not about them, or people like them. That's not an acceptable problem to have with it though so they look for other issues. |
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Of course it is. They don't like it because it's not about them, or people like them. That's not an acceptable problem to have with it though so they look for other issues.'"
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| Quote ="post"I think people would be the same if there was a group promoting white power and pressuring sports team to support them or face their wrath.'"
Who has pressured anyone into anything aside from possibly the media? |
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| Quote ="post"To kneel means you are subservient, not equal.
Politics and sport shouldn't mix.
I will be boycotting the club from now on until either the club or players show some backbone and not kneel and just get on with playing rugby, or until every member of yesterdays squad that knelt leaves the club. I've got strong views on the subject but I'll refrain from saying them because this is a 'Rugby League' forum and politics and sport should not mix.'"
*waves*
Offiah, and 3 young black players "this isn't about politics, this is about what we personally have endured"
Person on the Internet "well I obviously know better than the people living it, sports and politics shouldn't mix!" |
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| Quote ="post"Did the teams playing sport against South Africa do a certain gesture to support the Apartheid movement or just play sport, or is that supporting it?'"
Well the cricket teams that played against them did it for financial gain at the cost of their actual International career so maybe they stood there and counted their cash? |
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Who has pressured anyone into anything aside from possibly the media?'"
Sky Sports seem to be pushing the agenda heavily so I'd hazard a guess at them. |
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| Quote ="Angelus"*waves*
Offiah, and 3 young black players "this isn't about politics, this is about what we personally have endured"
Person on the Internet "well I obviously know better than the people living it, sports and politics shouldn't mix!"'"
The whole identity politics quagmire is one I don't fancy getting in to, because no matter what you say to challenge a certain view or point, there is a term used against you which shuts down the argument. From my view if some reasonable person starts asking questions with a genuine curiosity because they're labelled a gammon, or a Karen, or a moron.
Its such a divisive and sensitive issue that separates people and sets them to argue, and this is why politics and sport shouldn't mix. |
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| Quote ="post"The whole identity politics quagmire is one I don't fancy getting in to, because no matter what you say to challenge a certain view or point, there is a term used against you which shuts down the argument. From my view if some reasonable person starts asking questions with a genuine curiosity because they're labelled a gammon, or a Karen, or a moron.
Its such a divisive and sensitive issue that separates people and sets them to argue, and this is why politics and sport shouldn't mix.'"
There is nothing political about taking a knee to highlight racism. |
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| Quote ="post"Sky Sports seem to be pushing the agenda heavily so I'd hazard a guess at them.'"
Is that the same sky sports that are the......MEDIA? |
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When sporting idols like Anthony Joshua make statements on a microphone in the street to thousands of protesters saying 'Hit them (white people) where it hurts, invest only in black business and boycott their (white people's) shops' then it becomes more about simply showing solidarity. It has gone way too far now and has massively split opinions, just read through the pages on this thread. I can't support a political movement that wants to actively abolish the police force. It's ridiculous.
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"When sporting idols like Anthony Joshua make statements on a microphone in the street to thousands of protesters saying 'Hit them (white people) where it hurts, invest only in black business and boycott their (white people's) shops' then it becomes more about simply showing solidarity. It has gone way too far now and has massively split opinions, just read through the pages on this thread. I can't support a political movement that wants to actively abolish the police force. It's ridiculous.'"
Abolishing the police is nuts. Reforming it isn't. I dont support the political movement either. Its obviously been corrupted and seized upon by people who aren't looking for equality. But I do support a players right to take a knee before a game. Especially when those players have openly said its not about politics, its about what they and their teammates have personally endured. Sky politicise it and call it a movement. The players themselves just want to say enough is enough |
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| Quote ="Angelus"Abolishing the police is nuts. Reforming it isn't. I dont support the political movement either. Its obviously been corrupted and seized upon by people who aren't looking for equality. But I do support a players right to take a knee before a game. Especially when those players have openly said its not about politics, its about what they and their teammates have personally endured. Sky politicise it and call it a movement. The players themselves just want to say enough is enough'"
Why should Wigan RFLC players do a gesture on the pitch before a game to signify their support of a movement that says that our Police Force (Not service, which is the best in the World) is institutionally racist and seeks to defund it? How about the players do whatever political stance in their own time and leave it out of sport. |
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