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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"In today's world social media is a BIG player, particularly with the younger fan set. Warrington are very good at it, but accept it's not to everyone's taste. You can always chose not to follow, like, subscribe?'"
I think he means "Social Trends" such as LGBTQ and I assume BLM now as opposed to Social Media itself!
I don't do a lot of Social Media but fiends & family (Kids) who do say Wigan's content has been far better in the last 3 months or so and although it won't make any difference to me & my watching habits it will to the younger ones.
As for the "Social Trends" - It's amazing how many people don't like having it rammed down their throat when they don't agree with the cause, but don't mind it when they do agree with the cause.
As for "Don't like the direction the clubs going" - I reckon that's just another way of saying "I don't like Leneghan, I could do a better job, Hey look at me I'm not happy". maybe We should have an ELM Movement?
I mean some people have certainly done enough moaning and crying about him (And Wane) over the last 6/7 years (Seemed to start around the Gareth Hock incident) that at some point those many crumbs of evidence they pick up will amount to something that they think will be enough to get Leneghan to move on (Like they did with Wane).
Anyway
Will do another post shortly on What I think of the Letter when I've read it properly (Only scanned it last night).
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| I have a lot of sympathy for supporters who are unable to put any money into the club ( thus require a refund) if they can't afford it. Lots of supporters are losing jobs and are on their s.
For those supporters who would refuse to help donate, fundraise (even offering some of their spare time up jangling a few buckets) during these unprecedented times simply because they are critical of how the club is run then I'm less sympathetic.
I bleed Wigan RL and if needs be I'm going to be there to offer my support whether it be financial or give up my time for whatever is needed. I shovelled snow off the pitch at Central Park as a teenager, I'm ready to "pull my sleeves up" for the club again if/when called. I know there are a large group of supporters would be right with me.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"I think he means "Social Trends" such as LGBTQ and I assume BLM now as opposed to Social Media itself!
I don't do a lot of Social Media but fiends & family (Kids) who do say Wigan's content has been far better in the last 3 months or so and although it won't make any difference to me & my watching habits it will to the younger ones.
As for the "Social Trends" - It's amazing how many people don't like having it rammed down their throat when they don't agree with the cause, but don't mind it when they do agree with the cause.
As for "Don't like the direction the clubs going" - I reckon that's just another way of saying "I don't like Leneghan, I could do a better job, Hey look at me I'm not happy". maybe We should have an ELM Movement?
I mean some people have certainly done enough moaning and crying about him (And Wane) over the last 6/7 years (Seemed to start around the Gareth Hock incident) that at some point those many crumbs of evidence they pick up will amount to something that they think will be enough to get Leneghan to move on (Like they did with Wane).
Anyway
Will do another post shortly on What I think of the Letter when I've read it properly (Only scanned it last night).'"
It has nothing to do with any kind of axe to grind with IL. It has everything to do with the club jumping on bandwagons and using its position to push matters and politically motivated organisations that have nothing to do with RL. If thats what the club believes in fine, but i wont be spending any of my hard earned to support a club that does so, ask the organisations they are pushing for financial help, they have plenty of money. You only need to read the Wigan social media pages to see that there are a lot of people that are unhappy with what the club did, unless they have deleted the posts that is.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"It has nothing to do with any kind of axe to grind with IL. It has everything to do with the club jumping on bandwagons and using its position to push matters and politically motivated organisations that have nothing to do with RL. If thats what the club believes in fine, but i wont be spending any of my hard earned to support a club that does so, ask the organisations they are pushing for financial help, they have plenty of money. You only need to read the Wigan social media pages to see that there are a lot of people that are unhappy with what the club did, unless they have deleted the posts that is.'"
Not a fan of the LGBTQ+ community then?
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"It has nothing to do with any kind of axe to grind with IL. It has everything to do with the club jumping on bandwagons and using its position to push matters and politically motivated organisations that have nothing to do with RL. If thats what the club believes in fine, but i wont be spending any of my hard earned to support a club that does so, ask the organisations they are pushing for financial help, they have plenty of money. You only need to read the Wigan social media pages to see that there are a lot of people that are unhappy with what the club did, unless they have deleted the posts that is.'"
I hereby pledge 50p split between Black Lives Matter and LGBTQ causes for every post Enforcer makes between now and Wigan's next Super League game. Your message has prompted me to sign up to Wigan TV just now too
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Not a fan of the LGBTQ+ community then?'"
No problem with them whatsoever, have you? I have no idea what ones sexuality has to do with a rugby league club though.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I hereby pledge 50p split between Black Lives Matter and LGBTQ causes for every post Enforcer makes between now and Wigan's next Super League game. Your message has prompted me to sign up to Wigan TV just now too
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Great, if that makes you happy, do it. You are well within your rights to support the abolition of the Police and the destruction of western values. I can promise you i couldn't care less what you choose to spend your money on.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Great, if that makes you happy, do it. You are well within your rights to support the abolition of the Police and the destruction of western values. I can promise you i couldn't care less what you choose to spend your money on.'"
A solid start to our joint fundraising. I'll include both of us on the donation message.
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| Quote ="NSW"I love this club.
If them keeping my season ticket money helps keep them going, that’s fine. Luckily I’m in a position too.
Also looking to sign up to the lotto and maybe pick something up from the shop.'"
I've been in the Lotto for ever and never won a dime but who cares?
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| Bet I can cost Grimmy even more money!!!
You know how much He loves me.
New cause
#EWM (Enforcers words matter)
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"What I would consider if I was part of the management team would be to extend the free ticket age for juniors from eight to nine or ten, for a couple of years at least. That way there would be more chance of their parents also renewing or even new members joining.'"
All junior school kids RG. I haven't a problem with the club keeping my money but I would like to see both a financial plan and IFLs thoughts on recruitment before I commit. IFL could have a share issue to raise money or even ask for loans with Orrell being used as a security. The only problem I see is that if season ticket holders are being asked to prop up the club then their loyalty should be rewarded further down the line.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Bet I can cost Grimmy even more money!!!
You know how much He loves me.
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#EWM (Enforcers words matter)'"
Dont forget, he said every time i post before the next Wigan game so its not limited to this thread.
The question is, will he honour his wise guy pledge?
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| LGBTQ+ and BLM are not social trends. They are a product of society's (mainly unconscious) prejudice. As someone who falls within the LGBTQ+ demographic I'm proud of what the club is trying to do, and was looking forward to being visible for who I am for the first time at a rugby game at the postponed Catalans match. It is people's choice what they do with their money, but to withhold money because you are disgusted at the club's stance on "social trends" is ignoring the values of this great club, and reinforcing society's inbuilt prejudice.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Dont forget, he said every time i post before the next Wigan game so its not limited to this thread.
The question is, will he honour his wise guy pledge?'"
It will be costly but it's well worth it.
Gained Wigan TV a new subscriber - X
Raised money for LGBTQ+ and BLM - X
Encouraged a new LGBTQ+ Wigan fan to come forward - X
What's our next target buddy? #EWM
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"It has nothing to do with any kind of axe to grind with IL. It has everything to do with the club jumping on bandwagons and using its position to push matters and politically motivated organisations that have nothing to do with RL. If thats what the club believes in fine, but i wont be spending any of my hard earned to support a club that does so, ask the organisations they are pushing for financial help, they have plenty of money. You only need to read the Wigan social media pages to see that there are a lot of people that are unhappy with what the club did, unless they have deleted the posts that is.'"
Are you seriously saying you're going to deny the club any of your 'hard-earned' until they start thinking the way you do?
Is that a genuine position or an excuse for not going to games?
(Neither makes you look good, by the way).
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Are you seriously saying you're going to deny the club any of your 'hard-earned' until they start thinking the way you do?
Is that a genuine position or an excuse for not going games?
(Neither makes you look good, by the way).'"
I'm curious about this too, and curious as to how "treat everyone equally" is a political movement. I thought it was just a generally decent thing to do.
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| Quote ="RainbowWarrior"LGBTQ+ and BLM are not social trends. They are a product of society's (mainly unconscious) prejudice. As someone who falls within the LGBTQ+ demographic I'm proud of what the club is trying to do, and was looking forward to being visible for who I am for the first time at a rugby game at the postponed Catalans match. It is people's choice what they do with their money, but to withhold money because you are disgusted at the club's stance on "social trends" is ignoring the values of this great club, and reinforcing society's inbuilt prejudice.'"
You could have been whatever you wanted at any of the games anyway. You didn't need a special day for this - attend the game and with your partner or whoever else you want. Not 100% sure what rule said you can't?
If you seriously think that anyone is watching you instead of the game then you're deluded. I'm there for a game of rugby not some social protest showoff.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"You could have been whatever you wanted at any of the games anyway. You didn't need a special day for this - attend the game and with your partner or whoever else you want. Not 100% sure what rule said you can't?
If you seriously think that anyone is watching you instead of the game then you're deluded. I'm there for a game of rugby not some social protest showoff.'"
In that case you dont need a special day for fathers day so i guess we shouldnt go to those games as we dont need it rammed down our throats. you also dont need an armed forces day, st georges day, st patricks day, mothers day, all of these have been done in the past by the club without anyone bothering. Why bother now about this one?
Also, if youre just there for a game of rugby, then... just watch the game?
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"No problem with them whatsoever, have you? I have no idea what ones sexuality has to do with a rugby league club though.'"
Maybe we have some gay fans, players, coaches, admin staff. Do you complain when your place of work supports LGBTQ+ causes?
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| Quote ="RainbowWarrior"LGBTQ+ and BLM are not social trends. They are a product of society's (mainly unconscious) prejudice. As someone who falls within the LGBTQ+ demographic I'm proud of what the club is trying to do, and was looking forward to being visible for who I am for the first time at a rugby game at the postponed Catalans match. It is people's choice what they do with their money, but to withhold money because you are disgusted at the club's stance on "social trends" is ignoring the values of this great club, and reinforcing society's inbuilt prejudice.'"
Mate, you have been able to come to the game as whatever you like, The vast majority of people do not care about your sexuality, you are free to be whoever you like. People want to watch rugby league at games, not be given a lecture on social issues. It has naff all to do with rugby league just as a movement to abolish the Police and bring down western values doesnt. On saying that, the club is also free to support whatever causes they like, just as i have a right to voice my opinion and choose to spend my money as i think appropriate.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Mate, you have been able to come to the game as whatever you like, The vast majority of people do not care about your sexuality, you are free to be whoever you like. People want to watch rugby league at games, not be given a lecture on social issues. It has naff all to do with rugby league just as a movement to abolish the Police and bring down western values doesnt. On saying that, the club is also free to support whatever causes they like, just as i have a right to voice my opinion and choose to spend my money as i think appropriate.'"
As already stated, no one wants to abolish the police, and what are the western values you think are being brought down exactly? Or is that just a random buzzphrase?
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