Horses for courses for me. I fully agree that going in to Good Friday I wouldn’t be starting with Partington and Byrne but circumstances dictate that selection at the minute IMO. I don’t think Flower will be right to start, George Burgess is probably better served playing from the bench for a couple more weeks and that would leave me with a choice of who warrants a starting shirt more out of Bullock and Byrne from Sunday and Byrne was comfortably the better performer on the day.

Going forward I’d want us to hopefully work towards getting George Burgess ready to start on Good Friday. We can’t afford to start that game back peddling against Thompson and Walmsley and I fear that is what we’ll be doing unless we throw something back at them from the off. It’s nice to have some options regardless and to be able to think about how we can build in to that game.

Very true. Nice to have options as you say. I think Lam would prefer to start with at least one senior prop but I'm sure the young lads will do a job if selected.

If we lose the forward battle v Saints on Good Friday we’ll be looking at a 16 point plus loss. We must start with our strongest, most experienced props which means Burgess and Flower/Clarke with Bullock, Bryne and Oli off the bench. Clubb hasn’t been anywhere near good enough and will be a hinderance v Saints. He alone could be the difference between a narrow win or a huge loss.

Funny that, she says exactly the same to me

To be fair, in or out, it's hard to tell with you though..

Friday Nights game are alright for those who do not work but if supporters want to have a proper match experience, Sunday Afternoons with a standard 3.00pm kick off are far better as supporters who do work can travel more, go for a meal or just go to pubs which all help to create a better atmosphere before, during and even after a game. For many, Friday Nights means rushing about for a home game, and having to have a day off off work or swap shifts to travel for a away game.

In all the years I have watched the game, going to a game on a Sunday Afternoon was far more important and a better experience than than Friday Night and many of the excuses we now see from some supporters especially about kids going to school. If you want to do jobs at home or go to somewhere else for a day out with the family, whats wrong with Saturday unless of course that is reserved for Town Centre Shopping or Supermarket day.

Most Football matches are played on a Saturday Afternoon and I know many football supporters who are fed up of games being switched from the traditional Saturday Afternoon with a 3.00pm kick off to other days and times to suit television.

All Super League games with the exception of those on television should be played on a Sunday Afternoon with a standard 3.00pm kick off, especially now with the traffic problems of going over the M62 in the Friday Night rush hour which has led to less away supporters travelling each way over the Pennines and lower crowds.

The problem today is that the sport is no longer about the supporters, but more about television, sponsorship, corporate dining and shopping.

Wasn’t the match day/times put to the supporters a few years ago and Friday evenings won hands down?

Yes and as I said on another thread crowds on Sundays are always much lower than Fridays.

Only proving that supporters are now using our games as a fill in on a Weekend and not as a day out experience on the Weekend day like Saturday like they do in Football and Rugby Union.

How many now travel over the Pennines on a Friday Night in each direction to boost crowds at our grounds compared to the number that use to do when all games were played on a Sunday before Sky came on the scene.

Friday Nights may suit home supporters, especially those with no work commitments, but they are doing nothing for those who do work or way support with the exception of local games involving St Helens, Warrington and Wigan on our side of the Pennines or local games between Castleford, Leeds and Wakefield in West Yorkshire or Hull FC and Hull KR on Humberside.

Three younger members of my family have stopped supporting the club as a result of Friday Night games interfering with their work commitments.

Well, they'd lose one season ticket sale here if they went to Sundays and I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one. I can manage a few Sundays in a season but very often need to write games off. I don't mind for the occasional game but it's simply uneconomical to do it for more than a couple.

But according to ruddy duck would gain thousands

That's the thing - Saturday = Doing stuff that NEEDS to be done every week (shopping, etc.). Sunday is the day to do things that we WANT to do (whether that be working on the house or going out).

There is a reason that the only fan-survey that I know of threw out Friday night as the best time to play games.
(If there was a more recent one, it was not very well advertised).

And as for "alright for those who do not work" - Garbage.
I work until 5:30 or 6pm most days and still make the match just fine.
If it's away at Hull, etc. then I just finish a little early by starting an hour earlier.

Friday night travel = lower crowds... Nope. Sundays (apart from Wakey and Cas, where it is still traditional) get lower attendances across the board.

And as for television, etc. - That only affects the Thursday games (which I personally hate).

Right now, it feels like IFL trying to get more people to hang around in the fan-zone before and after the game, to get a bit more money in, by using Sundays to allow a bit more time.

I'm struggling to really see the downside of Sunday KOs. And even if it is true that Friday night gates average higher than Sunday games, maybe that's because Friday night games have become the norm, so people are adjusting their habits and behaviour to suit? Maybe if Sunday games were more common, crowds would grow?

People have already posted them.

I don’t mind Sunday games but I do like the Friday/Saturday night games (even though the latter tend to be rather than rocking horse dung these days). A good mix of both is best IMO. First and foremost though we need to sack off Thursday night games.

Possible minor point to most but it’s much more difficult to fill the corporate lounges on Sunday in my experience.

My personal preference:

Fri 7.45pm - Historically most favoured by fans and Corporate.

Sun 3pm - Pretty good this time of year, good for post match revenue in the fan zone.

Sat 6pm - Don't see enough of these anymore. Would love to see this replace Thurs night games, should get bigger crowds and good viewing figures.

Thurs 7.45pm - Crowd killer and held to ransom by SKY, change to Saturday Evening's would be better.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Anything but Saturday evenings!

I did not say that.

How many of those who prefer Friday Nights go to away games other than Salford, St Helens and Warrington?

So now we know, doing the shopping on a Sunday is now more important than watching Rugby League in spite of shops and supermarkets being open more than they use to be and what's the problem with doing the shopping on the tradition day of Saturday, unless of course you are also a football supporter


It was also traditional for Wigan and other clubs in the days of Central Park and also other clubs until Sky came on the scene and geared people to their way of thinking or should I say game scheduling.

Over the years in surveys Sundays have been popular, for me they win hands down.

Just not as popular as Fridays hence why the club didn't change. Sunday games this season are basically because Latics are at home on Saturday