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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Quote ="NSW"Will Smithies be banned for a gouge ?'"
Nah, they will find it “inconclusive “ and give him a warning. Nothing to be worried about. Whichever player it was that ran in with raised forearm to the throat may have a little more to sweat on.'"
Well it was inconclusive. Yes his hands on his face but you can't see what if anythihg he actually does. Just looks like a bit of a facial to me that you see in most tackles.
Austin seemed to cry every time he was tackled last night. Playing on the wing has ruined him.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"You going?'"
No, mate. We're going to watch our friend Carley Stenson with Jason Manford in Curtains at Liverpool Empire, it's been booked for months.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It'll be interesting to see the reserve team that plays at Widnes tomorrow. That may give us some idea on who will play v Cas.
The Widnes v Wigan reserve game is live on Wigan t.v. kick off 2 p.m.'"
I hope to see them all play. Similar side to the Leigh friendly for me, bar obviously Burgess, Havard. Even more so if they’re due to play at Cas, give them a tune up.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It'll be interesting to see the reserve team that plays at Widnes tomorrow. That may give us some idea on who will play v Cas.
The Widnes v Wigan reserve game is live on Wigan t.v. kick off 2 p.m.'"
Going off the website it looks like Clark and Bullock will both play
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Well it was inconclusive. Yes his hands on his face but you can't see what if anythihg he actually does. Just looks like a bit of a facial to me that you see in most tackles.
Austin seemed to cry every time he was tackled last night. Playing on the wing has ruined him.'"
Did you see him rush over to George Burgess and rub his head after their try. Soft melt, whinged through the whole game.
Probably will do again next week as well.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Did you see him rush over to George Burgess and rub his head after their try. Soft melt, whinged through the whole game.
Probably will do again next week as well.'"
I have never seen a player get away with being offside as much as Austin was onThurs. The ref and touch judge ignored it for most of the second half.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Did you see him rush over to George Burgess and rub his head after their try. Soft melt, whinged through the whole game.
Probably will do again next week as well.'"
I have never seen a player get away with being offside as much as Austin was onThurs. The ref and touch judge ignored it for most of the second half.
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| Quote ="stpatricks"I have never seen a player get away with being offside as much as Austin was onThurs. The ref and touch judge ignored it for most of the second half.'"
Pay closer attention to Maggie Philbin when they play saints he was 2 yards offside all the time he was on the pitch
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| Quote ="MattyB"Did you see him rush over to George Burgess and rub his head after their try. Soft melt, whinged through the whole game.
Probably will do again next week as well.'"
His crying and waving of arms after the alleged ‘gauge’ was quite embarrassing for a Rugby League player.
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| For the Cas game, I think it would be good to play Mitch Clarke. He’s done well in the last couple of games and he’s got a point to prove. So I’d put him in instead of George Burgess.
1 - French
2 - Marshall
3 - Hardaker
4 - Bibby
5 - Burgess
6 - Shorrocks
7 - Hastings
8 - Partington
9 - Leuluai
10 - Byrne
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12 - Isa
13 - O’Loughlin
14 - Clarke
15 - Havard
16 - Smithies
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| Quote ="post"For the Cas game, I think it would be good to play Mitch Clarke. He’s done well in the last couple of games and he’s got a point to prove. So I’d put him in instead of George Burgess.
1 - French
2 - Marshall
3 - Hardaker
4 - Bibby
5 - Burgess
6 - Shorrocks
7 - Hastings
8 - Partington
9 - Leuluai
10 - Byrne
11 - Farrell
12 - Isa
13 - O’Loughlin
14 - Clarke
15 - Havard
16 - Smithies
17 - Clubb'"
Wouldn’t have Shorrocks and Clark in front of Bullock and Smith, unless Clubb is dropped for Clark
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| Quote ="post"For the Cas game, I think it would be good to play Mitch Clarke. He’s done well in the last couple of games and he’s got a point to prove. So I’d put him in instead of George Burgess.
1 - French
2 - Marshall
3 - Hardaker
4 - Bibby
5 - Burgess
6 - Shorrocks
7 - Hastings
8 - Partington
9 - Leuluai
10 - Byrne
11 - Farrell
12 - Isa
13 - O’Loughlin
14 - Clarke
15 - Havard
16 - Smithies
17 - Clubb'"
Shorrocks hasn’t done enough for me to warrant a place in the team. I’d keep leuluai at six and this might be a bit outside the box but I’d try Isa at hooker. He has a good engine on him and although we won’t see many scoots I think he could do an 80 min job.
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| Quote ="KingRoss11"Wouldn’t have Shorrocks and Clark in front of Bullock and Smith, unless Clubb is dropped for Clark'"
Even though Shorrocks isn’t the worlds best defender, I think he’s a lot better than Smith and that’s one area I’d like to see Smith work on, his defence, otherwise someone’s going to run all over the top of Smith and that’ll ruin him. ITS Alright making comparisons with George Williams coming through, Williams was a very good tackler so could hold his own.
I do think Bullock has been better than Clarke but with the way he was treated last year by Powell, he will be motivated to have a good game. But if I’m honest, I’d probably rather play Kilner over both Clarke and Bullock, but I’d be inclined to swap him in the squad with Havard to avoid burnout.
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| You would hope that Clark would want to prove a point to cas, he could be used to unsettle their players.
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| Quote ="KingRoss11"Wouldn’t have Shorrocks and Clark in front of Bullock and Smith, unless Clubb is dropped for Clark'"
Clubb is very much a Lam favourite but he needs to do far more if he wants a place IMO. He took 3 carries in for 15 metres and missed nearly as many tackles as he made. I like Clubb when he’s on form (he was excellent for a spell last year when we were down to the bare bones in the prop department) but with so much competition for places, he couldn’t have any qualms if he lost his place at Cas.
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| I would run with smith at 6, however i think they may start lockers in the halves and put smith on the bench, bringing him on the field after 25 - 30 minutes with lockers going for a rest. I then think lockers would return in the 2nd half to give tommy a rest for 15 minutes at 9.
This would allow smithies to start at 13.
I think the team will be:
French
Marshall
Zak
Bibby
Budgy
Lockers
Hastings
Partington
Tommy
Clubb
Isa
Faz
Smithies
Byrne
Clarke
Bullock
Smith
I would also spell havard for this game as he is young and put him back in for the Tornoto game the week after.
This would allow Clarke to have a bash against his former club who threw their toys out the pram when he turned down their offer of a 3 year deal to join Wigan.
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"I would run with smith at 6, however i think they may start lockers in the halves and put smith on the bench, bringing him on the field after 25 - 30 minutes with lockers going for a rest. I then think lockers would return in the 2nd half to give tommy a rest for 15 minutes at 9.
This would allow smithies to start at 13.
I think the team will be:
French
Marshall
Zak
Bibby
Budgy
Lockers
Hastings
Partington
Tommy
Clubb
Isa
Faz
Smithies
Byrne
Clarke
Bullock
Smith
I would also spell havard for this game as he is young and put him back in for the Tornoto game the week after.
This would allow Clarke to have a bash against his former club who threw their toys out the pram when he turned down their offer of a 3 year deal to join Wigan.'"
Clarke needs a big game from somewhere because at the moment he is down the pecking order. Bullock and Bryrn and some of the young lads have been flying in. Having said that perhaps Lam wants him to be a big minutes prop because when I have seen him he has been playing a kind of steadying role.
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| Just on this 80 min hooker thing, is it not the case that Joe Shorrocks has played a bit of interchange hooker at Academy level? Which might gives us an option if he gets a bench spot at some point this season, which seems likely.
I agree with those who say, keep French at full-back. i also agree that Cas away is a tough place and not the best spot to blood a lot of inexperienced youngsters.
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| Looks like both Powell and Burgess could be playing on Friday, don’t want Burgess playing because he’s simply not fit but Powell would be good to have, I’d still spell him with Tommy at 9 and have Smith at 6 however
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| George Burgess 50/50 according to Lam but he’d need to be 100/0 IMO to get a game. It’s a long season and there’s no point in playing people who are anything like 50/50.
Powell has passed the head tests apparently, so he would be handy to have in the team. I’m really looking forward to seeing Harry Smith yet a start at some point but Toronto at home would be a wiser move than Cas away. I’d carry him on the bench for Cas and start him against Toronto.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"George Burgess 50/50 according to Lam but he’d need to be 100/0 IMO to get a game. It’s a long season and there’s no point in playing people who are anything like 50/50.
Powell has passed the head tests apparently, so he would be handy to have in the team. I’m really looking forward to seeing Harry Smith yet a start at some point but Toronto at home would be a wiser move than Cas away. I’d carry him on the bench for Cas and start him against Toronto.'"
If Powell needs a week off it would be a great opportunity to see Harry Smith alongside Hastings. I watched the Widnes reserves game and he was a level above in that first half. I suspect Shorrocks would get the nod because he could spell Tommy at 9.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"If Powell needs a week off it would be a great opportunity to see Harry Smith alongside Hastings. I watched the Widnes reserves game and he was a level above in that first half. I suspect Shorrocks would get the nod because he could spell Tommy at 9.'"
Joe Shorrocks?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"George Burgess 50/50 according to Lam but he’d need to be 100/0 IMO to get a game. It’s a long season and there’s no point in playing people who are anything like 50/50.
Powell has passed the head tests apparently, so he would be handy to have in the team. I’m really looking forward to seeing Harry Smith yet a start at some point but Toronto at home would be a wiser move than Cas away. I’d carry him on the bench for Cas and start him against Toronto.'"
Surely we can't have TC and GB in the same 17?
GB if injured needs to be as you say 100% but TC hasn't been 100% for years and how he gets selected ahead of Kilner or Havard is a complete mystery to me.
When TC plays its like starting with 16 rather than 17
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| If Sam has passed every head test known to man I still wouldn’t play him, the guy was knocked out cold, you can’t mess with that, I’d be quite willing to give him a couple of month off, like a boxer really if they get ko’d they usually don’t fight again for a good few months , we need to start treating serious head knocks like a serious knee injury out for a good while.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"Surely we can't have TC and GB in the same 17?
GB if injured needs to be as you say 100% but TC hasn't been 100% for years and how he gets selected ahead of Kilner or Havard is a complete mystery to me.
When TC plays its like starting with 16 rather than 17'"
Agreed, think within the next year our pack will be made up of Partington Bryne Havard Kilner and Burgess if he can manage his hip. It’s certainly the best set of forwards we’ve produced in a while
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