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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Wanting a "crack at it' and selling are 2 different things....on top of that replace with Sammutt!
It's no wonder he hopped it....teams don't sell their best assets.....Wigan of the late 80s and 90s didn't.'"
We sold Ellery Hanley to Leeds during his peak, arguably the best asset we've ever had.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Wanting a "crack at it' and selling are 2 different things....on top of that replace with Sammutt!
It's no wonder he hopped it....teams don't sell their best assets.....Wigan of the late 80s and 90s didn't.'"
Shocking trolling, we've come to expect far better from you
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| His back tracking is laughable. Initially he was doing us a favour because he didn’t think he’d be able to do the job adequately but now it’s our fault because we didn’t tell him Williams was going. Anybody with half an eye on the club could’ve told him that. The club only went and replaced him with the current man of steel...how dare they!
The past is in the past now. Wigan shouldn’t respond to him and just leave it where it is IMO. If he has the brass neck to show up at any future Wigan games then fair play to him and he should always be welcomed for his achievements as a player. He’s tainted his legacy though and there won’t be much respect there anymore. It’s pretty sad really but there you go.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Wanting a "crack at it' and selling are 2 different things....on top of that replace with Sammutt!
It's no wonder he hopped it....teams don't sell their best assets.....Wigan of the late 80s and 90s didn't.'"
Has any poster got so much wrong in so few words?
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| Quote ="MattyB"We sold Ellery Hanley to Leeds during his peak, arguably the best asset we've ever had.'"
he wasnt as his peak , still I shed a tear that day....shaun long, tuigamala, henry paul, fairburn all got rid of in the 80s and 90s
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| Quote ="Pieman"he wasnt as his peak
, still I shed a tear that day....shaun long, tuigamala, henry paul, fairburn all got rid of in the 80s and 90s'"
Hanley left Wigan in April 91 aged thirty. He then went onto play for Leeds for four years. He played 114 games and scored 106 tries for them. I'd say he was 'in his peak' when he left us.
Agree with the others too. I'd add Robinson into that mix too.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Hanley left Wigan in April 91 aged thirty. He then went onto play for Leeds for four years. He played 114 games and scored 106 tries for them. I'd say he was 'in his peak' when he left us.
Agree with the others too. I'd add Robinson into that mix too.'"
Robinson left in 2000
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| Quote ="MattyB"Hanley left Wigan in April 91 aged thirty. He then went onto play for Leeds for four years. He played 114 games and scored 106 tries for them. I'd say he was 'in his peak' when he left us.
Agree with the others too. I'd add Robinson into that mix too.'"
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Robinson left in 2000
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| Edwards wanted to bring in his own fitness coach. “I’d spoken to him, promised him a job, and =#FF0000four months after our first conversation the club still hadn’t rung him up. Then I found out they had sold George Williams, who was going to be a marquee player for the following season. I didn’t find it out from the club, I found it out from a newspaper.”
Does any of you believe this?
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Edwards wanted to bring in his own fitness coach. “I’d spoken to him, promised him a job, and =#FF0000four months after our first conversation the club still hadn’t rung him up. Then I found out they had sold George Williams, who was going to be a marquee player for the following season. I didn’t find it out from the club, I found it out from a newspaper.”
Does any of you believe this?'"
Part of me actually does
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| Quote ="Jukesays"He was taking over 18months after he "Agreed" to join
How do you know they didn't tell him?
How do you know that the negotiations to sell GW only started AFTER he decided he wasn't coming?
And he backed out some 10/11months before he was due to take over, How do we know the discussions with the Fitness coach he wanted hadn't begun, How do we know he asked for or was promised this when he agreed to take over?
I ask it again, was it in his contract that we would employ this other guy? Strange as he didn't have one?
How do we know if the existing Wigan RL Fitness guy didn't already have a contract beyond the start of Edwards Tenure making employing someone else a little more difficult?
How do we know if the New guy wanted too much or maybe didn't even want to come?
There will be lots of versions of this same story but there's one thing I'm sure about
It's Sean Edwards raking this up again not the club
Whatever's gone on he should have had the Brains & the diplomacy to not bring it up again especially when =#FF0000I have no idea WHY he needed to bring it up.
Maybe him & IL agreed to whitewash the story on why he wasn't coming with an agreed mutual statement - And maybe he's broke that verbal agreement again?
Because he can't be upset with the Wigan Club about why he's not here? Since they both agreed the reason why he wasn't coming they've said Zilch, just like he should have.'"
Easy, it's towing the line with a very nice piece of pro Union and anti League propaganda for The Guardian to serve up to it's readers, as an aperitif to the Six Nations.
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| Quote ="Pieman"loved Hanley
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Great player horrible arrogant person
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Part of me actually does'"
That tin foil hat is slipping again pal.
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| I trust Edwards on this. He may be rough around the edges but he has never been afraid to tell it like it is. Why would he need to lie? The dust has settled on him becoming coach and its not like we refused him the job is it? He refused us so theres no reason for him to be bitter and start making up lies.
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| Quote ="warrior1872"Great player horrible arrogant person'"
Ian Lenaghan can be a good Chairman, but he too can be arrogant at times.
Both as bad as one another in the affair!
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| 1 Edwards agreed to join Wigan
2 Edwards got a better offer
3 Edwards reneged on his verbal offer with Wigan
Everything else is just noise ... end of
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"I trust Edwards on this. He may be rough around the edges but he has never been afraid to tell it like it is. Why would he need to lie? The dust has settled on him becoming coach and its not like we refused him the job is it? He refused us so theres no reason for him to be bitter and start making up lies.'"
There's no reason for him even to raise the subject again, but he has. And at just the right time to cause Wigan more embarrassment.
As to why he would lie, good question ... perhaps you should ask him.
People need to remember that, round Wigan back in the day, Shaun Edwards had a rep for being a bit of a daft lad.
The way he's behaved since that press conference, I'm not sure much has changed.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"There's no reason for him even to raise the subject again, but he has. And at just the right time to cause Wigan more embarrassment.
As to why he would lie, good question ... perhaps you should ask him.
People need to remember that, round Wigan back in the day, Shaun Edwards had a rep for being a bit of a daft lad.
The way he's behaved since that press conference, I'm not sure much has changed.'"
Did he raise it or was he asked?
I never got the impression he was ever a daft lad. He always came across as a bit rough around the edges and a bit blunt but ive never had any reason to believe he was a liar.
On the other hand, you would be forgiven for questioning the clubs truthfulness. Remember when Edwards had signed a contract then it turned out he hadnt signed anything?
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Did he raise it or was he asked?
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The trick would have been to say "that's all over with".
But I suspect that whatever publicity Permanent Assistant Shaun was trying to drum up for the Six Nations will be forgotten in today's new development.
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| The things SE is saying now ties in to what happened, so for me makes it more believable.
“lack of security”
We know he wasn’t offered a contract, rather a verbal agreement. Probably one of the most ridiculous and embarrassing things I’ve heard our great club do, just above offering Tony Clubb a 2yr extension.
“Coaching staff choices weren’t approached”
Wigan have kept the same back room staff for Lam as with Wane (minus Bitcon) for the second season running. That either means Lam didn’t want his own staff, plausible as he was only supposed to be here for one season, or he was never given the choice - plausible again as there has been no movement. IL likes the assistant to Head Coach route, as proven with Wane and probably why John Winder is still there. Honestly I can believe IL didn’t want SE’s coaching staff as they’d cost a fortune as opposed to the much cheaper option he has now.
“Williams sold behind my back”
Nothing really to back that up but given IL has been adventurous with the truth in the past it’s hard to not be tempted in by the notion he hasn’t been truthful with SE.
There’s 3 sides to every story; version A, version B and the truth.
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| If he ever turns up at the stadium or training ground again he should be promptly turned away.
A great player, but he's set fire to his legacy.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"The things SE is saying now ties in to what happened, so for me makes it more believable.
“lack of security”
We know he wasn’t offered a contract, rather a verbal agreement. Probably one of the most ridiculous and embarrassing things I’ve heard our great club do, just above offering Tony Clubb a 2yr extension.
“Coaching staff choices weren’t approached”
Wigan have kept the same back room staff for Lam as with Wane (minus Bitcon) for the second season running. That either means Lam didn’t want his own staff, plausible as he was only supposed to be here for one season, or he was never given the choice - plausible again as there has been no movement. IL likes the assistant to Head Coach route, as proven with Wane and probably why John Winder is still there. Honestly I can believe IL didn’t want SE’s coaching staff as they’d cost a fortune as opposed to the much cheaper option he has now.
“Williams sold behind my back”
Nothing really to back that up but given IL has been adventurous with the truth in the past it’s hard to not be tempted in by the notion he hasn’t been truthful with SE.
There’s 3 sides to every story; version A, version B and the truth.'"
Point is it was practically forgotten about and 3 days before the season starts he digs it up again with seemingly no other purpose but to show us in a bad light.
Now his side of the story might be 100% true but his behaviour still makes him an asshole.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Point is it was practically forgotten about and 3 days before the season starts he digs it up again with seemingly no other purpose but to show us in a bad light.
Now his side of the story might be 100% true but his behaviour still makes him an asshole.'"
Yep and I can’t disagree with that. It’s best being laid to rest where it was than continually being dug up though it’s almost certain this was a question asked by a journo in an interview rather than SE deliberately coming out to say this.
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