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| I thought Partington and Smithies were outstanding in their two spells . When they were off the field we struggled to defend . Two great prospects there for Canberra Raiders
Nice to see Jack Wells back in tonight’s squad
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| Never had much of a chance looking at the packs tonight but for god's sake there's no need to keep gifting this Saints team points.
Surely they should realise when Saints set up that shift play to the right Makinson is never more than two feet off the touchline because he knows that's where the ball is going.
Why Burgess keeps coming in is beyond me, he stank the place out tonight and if any of the U'19's wingers are in form they should play next week, he's gone from our No.1 to No.4 IMO.
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| As I said at the start of the week it was a case of taking the inevitable hit and moving on. A 20 point loss is about what I thought it would be.
The Wakefield was the bigger game even before tonight - if we can sneak a win there we have over 2 weeks to regroup and hopefully get a few forwards back. The concern is there are more injuries from tonight and we now have literally no senior prop forwards.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Never had much of a chance looking at the packs tonight but for god's sake there's no need to keep gifting this Saints team points.
Surely they should realise when Saints set up that shift play to the right Makinson is never more than two feet off the touchline because he knows that's where the ball is going.
Why Burgess keeps coming in is beyond me, he stank the place out tonight and if any of the U'19's wingers are in form they should play next week, he's gone from our No.1 to No.4 IMO.'"
He won't be available for a while anyway - he's done his shoulder.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Never had much of a chance looking at the packs tonight but for god's sake there's no need to keep gifting this Saints team points.
Surely they should realise when Saints set up that shift play to the right Makinson is never more than two feet off the touchline because he knows that's where the ball is going.
Why Burgess keeps coming in is beyond me, he stank the place out tonight and if any of the U'19's wingers are in form they should play next week, he's gone from our No.1 to No.4 IMO.'"
I’ve questioned the attitude of Burgess before and after a flying comeback this year, he’s gone backwards since the new deal was signed and I can’t say I’m surprised. He’s so so talented but he just doesn’t look to have the desire to be the best player he can be.
Frustrating
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"
It was always going to be a transitional season .'"
We seem to be in a perpetual 'transitional season' over recent years.
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| Quote ="fleabag"We seem to be in a perpetual 'transitional season' over recent years.'"
We won it last year.
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| So who will replace Burgess next week?
Hankinson to centre and Sarginson to wing with Marshall going to 5?
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| Quote ="MadDogg"We won it last year.'"
And ?
Every season there is a coming and going of players....mainly going, especially any class. Tonight showed us where we are ........you might have enjoyed that. But I certainly didn't.
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| Quote ="fleabag"And ?
Every season there is a coming and going of players....mainly going, especially any class. Tonight showed us where we are ........you might have enjoyed that. But I certainly didn't.'"
Spot on. The head in the sand approach must end soon surely.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It was always going to be a bridge too far tonight minus 4 props from the start of the season plus Lockers and Greenwood. I wouldn’t start pointing fingers at Lam but I would question the teams decisions tonight. I thought going for the two points at 0-0 and then 6-2 was just throwing much needed field position away and giving their front row and their defensive line speed an easy way of keeping us pinned in our half. We’d troubled them in the first 5-10 mins as well but then had to do too much defending.'"
That's all true, NK, but it's like you only mentioned the good bits!
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| Quote ="Father Ted"So who will replace Burgess next week?
Hankinson to centre and Sarginson to wing with Marshall going to 5?'"
French?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I’ve questioned the attitude of Burgess before and after a flying comeback this year, he’s gone backwards since the new deal was signed and I can’t say I’m surprised. He’s so so talented but he just doesn’t look to have the desire to be the best player he can be.
Frustrating'"
He reminds me of Charnley is so many ways, including his attitude and half hearted efforts now he’s become billy big .
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| It's a footnote now, but does anyone agree with us going for 2 when we were 6-2 down near their line? I thought it was a waste of field position, still left us needing to score and basically said to an already-confident Saints "We don't think we can score a try even from here."
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| Quote ="Grimmy"It's a footnote now, but does anyone agree with us going for 2 when we were 6-2 down near their line? I thought it was a waste of field position, still left us needing to score and basically said to an already-confident Saints "We don't think we can score a try even from here."'"
In hindsight no but at the time I think it was the right decision, get the 2 and continue to build pressure. I think most teams would have gone for the 2 to be totally honest
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| Quote ="Brick with eyes"I thought Partington and Smithies were outstanding in their two spells . When they were off the field we struggled to defend . Two great prospects there for Canberra Raiders
Nice to see Jack Wells back in tonight’s squad'"
Completely agree. It’s easy to forget their age when the way they are playing is far beyond their age and experience.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"In hindsight no but at the time I think it was the right decision, get the 2 and continue to build pressure. I think most teams would have gone for the 2 to be totally honest'"
In hindsight, Wigan should of known it wouldn't work as Wire did it 3 times last week and still lost.....
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| Quote ="Grimmy"It's a footnote now, but does anyone agree with us going for 2 when we were 6-2 down near their line? I thought it was a waste of field position, still left us needing to score and basically said to an already-confident Saints "We don't think we can score a try even from here."'"
Thought that was a dreadful decision that gave a really poor message.
Both Wire and Wigan in recent weeks have told the Saints defence they think it is too strong for them early on in games.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"It's a footnote now, but does anyone agree with us going for 2 when we were 6-2 down near their line? I thought it was a waste of field position, still left us needing to score and basically said to an already-confident Saints "We don't think we can score a try even from here."'"
It wasn't the right decision. But we wouldn't have scored.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Thought that was a dreadful decision that gave a really poor message.
Both Wire and Wigan in recent weeks have told the Saints defence they think it is too strong for them early on in games.'"
I thought it was the right decision at the time, bringing it back to 6 - 4.
The two decisions for Saints 1st try were wrong.
1) The pass to Makinson was a good metre forward but, 2) the play should have been stopped just before that as Leuluai was being attended to by the doctor with a head injury. I thought that protocol was introduced this season?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I thought it was the right decision at the time, bringing it back to 6 - 4.
The two decisions for Saints 1st try were wrong.
1) The pass to Makinson was a good metre forward but, 2) the play should have been stopped just before that as Leuluai was being attended to by the doctor with a head injury. I thought that protocol was introduced this season?'"
Was it just me or were our medical team hugely naive? They got him to move the ten yards to the side of the pitch rather than just getting him to lie down.
It was on the side we were stood we couldn’t believe it.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I thought it was the right decision at the time, bringing it back to 6 - 4.
The two decisions for Saints 1st try were wrong.
1) The pass to Makinson was a good metre forward but, 2) the play should have been stopped just before that as Leuluai was being attended to by the doctor with a head injury. I thought that protocol was introduced this season?'"
Not seen it back but I was sat in line with the Makinson pass and thought it was fine at the time.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Not seen it back but I was sat in line with the Makinson pass and thought it was fine at the time.'"
I called it forward at the time. I've seen it back and it is forward. Wouldn't have made any difference to the result though!
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Was it just me or were our medical team hugely naive? They got him to move the ten yards to the side of the pitch rather than just getting him to lie down.
It was on the side we were stood we couldn’t believe it.'"
terrible by the medical team
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"In hindsight no but at the time I think it was the right decision, get the 2 and continue to build pressure. I think most teams would have gone for the 2 to be totally honest'"
but by taking 2 you relieve pressure, the second one we should have taken the tap and built pressure on them. Some very poor decision making and leadership
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