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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"He's just bitter and can't handle the fact that We took Hardaker after Cas made the mistake of sacking him, I seem to recall a few month back he was coming out with allsorts of cracks about Wigan owing Cas money and Cas wanting to take Wigan to court IIRC'"
Absolutely not. You don’t remember correctly!
My understanding is that the issue of BoC has been resolved. Cas could not have taken Wigan to court at all ( I made that perfectly clear, and that Wigan have done nothing wrong). They could have taken Zak to court for BoC but that’s been resolved now.
For what it’s worth I don’t think Cas did make a mistake. The club made it clear that he showed no remorse.
I’ve always had every sympathy for Zak and the issues he faces. I’ve said numerous times that I hope everything works out for him and that he’s a genuinely nice bloke who is facing some big issues.
I’m glad he’s not at Cas anymore though. Not because of his on-field ability (he’s unquestionably the best full back in SL, or at least he was in 2017), but because if the likelihood of him disrupting the who club with his antics.
I wish him well, but I’d rather he be somewhere other than Cas.
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Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Absolutely not. You don’t remember correctly!
My understanding is that the issue of BoC has been resolved. Cas could not have taken Wigan to court at all ( I made that perfectly clear, and that Wigan have done nothing wrong). They could have taken Zak to court for BoC but that’s been resolved now.
For what it’s worth I don’t think Cas did make a mistake. =#FF0000 The club made it clear that he showed no remorse.
I’ve always had every sympathy for Zak and the issues he faces. I’ve said numerous times that I hope everything works out for him and that he’s a genuinely nice bloke who is facing some big issues.
I’m glad he’s not at Cas anymore though. Not because of his on-field ability (he’s unquestionably the best full back in SL, or at least he was in 2017), but because if the likelihood of him disrupting the who club with his antics.
I wish him well, but I’d rather he be somewhere other than Cas.'"
www.itv.com/news/calendar/2017-1 ... rugs-test/
If he showed no remorse, why did Cas offer him another contract?
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Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Absolutely not. You don’t remember correctly!
My understanding is that the issue of BoC has been resolved. Cas could not have taken Wigan to court at all ( I made that perfectly clear, and that Wigan have done nothing wrong). They could have taken Zak to court for BoC but that’s been resolved now.
For what it’s worth I don’t think Cas did make a mistake. =#FF0000 The club made it clear that he showed no remorse.
I’ve always had every sympathy for Zak and the issues he faces. I’ve said numerous times that I hope everything works out for him and that he’s a genuinely nice bloke who is facing some big issues.
I’m glad he’s not at Cas anymore though. Not because of his on-field ability (he’s unquestionably the best full back in SL, or at least he was in 2017), but because if the likelihood of him disrupting the who club with his antics.
I wish him well, but I’d rather he be somewhere other than Cas.'"
www.itv.com/news/calendar/2017-1 ... rugs-test/
If he showed no remorse, why did Cas offer him another contract?
www.skysports.com/rugby-league/n ... n-warriors
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Unfortunately, history is generally a pretty good indication of the future.
As I’ve said though, even as a Cas supporter I hope he has a positive future. He’s a nice lad facing issues many people will never experience.
He deserves another chance, but there has to be a realisation that it comes with a high risk.'"
He's fine. Had over 9 RDT in the last 13 weeks and aced them all. He's well aware of the doubts everyone has and is very much looking forward to kicking off the season next year. He is 30/40% off the pace and knows he has his work cut out to get match fit for next year, that is the only worry we should really have as Wigan fans.
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If he showed no remorse, why did Cas offer him another contract?
www.skysports.com/rugby-league/n ... n-warriors'"
Could have been Cas spin (wouldn’t surprise me) but Steve Gill made it clear he showed no remorse in the immediate aftermath. He “apology” was just words and not backed up with his actions.
I believe he was offered another contract by Cas, once Steve Gill was no longer calling the shots, but he rejected it. To be honest he even contradicts himself there. In one breath he says he begged Cas to keep him on even paying minimum wage, but follows it with saying he couldn’t accept what he was offered!
As I’ve said throughout, I hope he does well. I’m not one of the Castleford supporters hoping he “gets what he deserves” or hoping he fails so we get some kind of “revenge”.
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If he showed no remorse, why did Cas offer him another contract?
www.skysports.com/rugby-league/n ... n-warriors'"
Could have been Cas spin (wouldn’t surprise me) but Steve Gill made it clear he showed no remorse in the immediate aftermath. He “apology” was just words and not backed up with his actions.
I believe he was offered another contract by Cas, once Steve Gill was no longer calling the shots, but he rejected it. To be honest he even contradicts himself there. In one breath he says he begged Cas to keep him on even paying minimum wage, but follows it with saying he couldn’t accept what he was offered!
As I’ve said throughout, I hope he does well. I’m not one of the Castleford supporters hoping he “gets what he deserves” or hoping he fails so we get some kind of “revenge”.
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| Quote ="RichieS"He's fine. Had over 9 RDT in the last 13 weeks and aced them all. He's well aware of the doubts everyone has and is very much looking forward to kicking off the season next year. He is 30/40% off the pace and knows he has his work cut out to get match fit for next year, that is the only worry we should really have as Wigan fans.'"
Good. To be honest he’s so fit I’m surprised he’s that far off match fitness. His stats are usually off the scale when it comes to fitness and endurance. Nobody at Cas could get near him in bleep test!
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| Was it Hardaker who’s missus terminated his child against his wishes? Not saying it’s an excuse to go off the rails but it would take a strong person not to. Sounds to me like he’s doing all the right things to get himself on track mentally wise
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| Quote ="Grimmy"He's had no shortage of those tbf!'"
He has you’re right there Grimmy but we’ve given him a chance and I just get the feeling that there’s some who just can’t wait to see him implode and are actually egging him on to do so!
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| I don't see where anyone has egged ZH on. He's one of a number of very talented players in SL in recent times who have repeatedly done themselves, or their club, no favours with their behaviour off the pitch.
If some have the opinion, belief or whatever you could call it, that Zak will go off the rails again, then that's up to them. I am in that category, but I'm neither egging him on to re-offend (should that be the right word), nor wishing it would happen. SL has too few genuinely talented players as it is, and would be a great pity to lose another.
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| If you get one season where he plays as he did for us (2015) or Cas in 2017 your gamble will have paid off. Personally, I'll be surprised if he's not brilliant in year 1. Keep him motivated and interested and he could be your best signing in a long time. IMO, of course.
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| Yes LeBron in 2016.
2017 September was the anniversary and he went on a mad un.
He got back with said missus. go figure.
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| Wane in the papers bigging up Zak, saying he'd play him this week if possible.
Probably just paper talk, last time I saw Zak he looked out of shape by his usual standards.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Was it Hardaker who’s missus terminated his child against his wishes? Not saying it’s an excuse to go off the rails but it would take a strong person not to. Sounds to me like he’s doing all the right things to get himself on track mentally wise
Regards
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Any need to be posting personal stuff like that ?
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| Quote ="Akinwale Arobieke"Any need to be posting personal stuff like that ?'"
You tell him, Purps!
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| Quote ="Akinwale Arobieke"Any need to be posting personal stuff like that ?'"
In fairness to Lebron, this was made obvious in the published UKAD decision. Hardaker’s legal team argued that he’d experienced a “similar” trauma to Jake Livermore, who was not suspended despite testing positive for a banned substance after the death of his child. There’s quite a long bit about the panel in Hardaker’s case struggling with how much weight to give the “similar issue” that Hardaker’s defence put forwards, as it’s really difficult to judge the effect certain experiences have on people.
As an aside, I thought the panel did an extremely bad job of redacting certain information. Often, redactions are random lengths rather than the length of the actual words used, but in Hardaker’s case it’s pretty easy to work out what has been redacted. I would expect a professional body to do a much better job than they have in this respect.
Anyhow, Zak’s back in training and hopefully he’ll be okay. Player welfare (and indeed human nature) puts his health and well-being above club rivalry. I hope he proves to be a success, but I’ll still be hoping he saves his bad games for when he plays Cas.
I also notice he’s not moved to Wigan and is travelling from Pontefract every day to training. I hope he does move, as it might eventually get him away from the idiots he associates with.
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| Can't see Wigan allowing him travel on a perm basis. He and the club may well be sorting out living arrangements between them. I always thought Wigan insisted players lived within 10 miles or so of the town.
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| Quote ="Akinwale Arobieke"Any need to be posting personal stuff like that ?'"
Yes
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Can't see Wigan allowing him travel on a perm basis. He and the club may well be sorting out living arrangements between them. I always thought Wigan insisted players lived within 10 miles or so of the town.'"
Why is that ? No Yorkies ever commute over together ?
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| Quote ="Towns88"Why is that ? No Yorkies ever commute over together ?'"
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| Tick tock..... a night on the razz in Ponte followed by an early-morning drive to Wigan isn’t the best idea.
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| Without even playing a game it “sounds” like he is already in bother.
The club will no doubt stand by him and he will no doubt do well for us on the pitch but my opinion of him will never change off the pitch.
Hope he the bus runs past his new abode in Wigan.
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| Quote ="jonh"Without even playing a game it “sounds” like he is already in bother.
The club will no doubt stand by him and he will no doubt do well for us on the pitch but my opinion of him will never change off the pitch.
Hope he the bus runs past his new abode in Wigan.'"
If Wigan have any sense they’ll get rid now.
Why would they stand by a player who was intending to turn up for training with alcohol levels over the drink driving limit?
The bloke’s got serious problems. He needs help away from the public gaze,
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Tick tock..... a night on the razz in Ponte followed by an early-morning drive to Wigan isn’t the best idea.'"
And stalking someone is likely to get you in trouble.
Seriously, mate, you need a new hobby.
For the last time, whether Wigan keep Hardaker or sack him is irrelevant to you. He is NOT coming back to Castleford.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"And stalking someone is likely to get you in trouble.
Seriously, mate, you need a new hobby.
For the last time, whether Wigan keep Hardaker or sack him is irrelevant to you. [uHe is NOT coming back to Castleford[/u.'"
i might be in the minority here but 'thank f**k for that' he is excellent on the field but an idiot off it, a time bomb waiting to go off
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| Quote ="Cruncher"And stalking someone is likely to get you in trouble.
Seriously, mate, you need a new hobby.
For the last time, whether Wigan keep Hardaker or sack him is irrelevant to you. He is NOT coming back to Castleford.'"
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but there is still an incredible amount of resentment where ZH is concerned. If you’re expecting people to not jump all over this then I’d have a few weeks away from the internet (not that I’m condoning any of it).
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