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| Quote ="CobraCraig"I agree,we haven't lost many games due to kicks.'"
One problem of having no kicker is our ability to control the scoreboard. Being unable to take shots at goal means that our scoring is restricted and it also means that we cannot influence the other teams game plan. By that I mean that we leave ourselves more open to drop goals whilst being forced to outscore the opponent in tries by 4 to 3. Last year or game plan was often based on pushing a lead past a converted score.
Sometimes I am nostalgic for three substitutions and a goal kicking prop forward.
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| Marshall is right footed and a couple of his kicks on Saturday looked awful technique wise,I was actually suprised they travelled the distance they did.
We don't have one component kicker at the moment so to have a right footed and left footed one to alternate that are equally as good is unlikely. Just give the responsibility to one of em and go with them,we did the same with Matty Smith,I'm sure Williams can reach a similar standard.
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| Quote ="Levrier"... and a goal kicking prop forward.'"
Where is Neil Cowie these days?
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"Marshall is right footed and a couple of his kicks on Saturday looked awful technique wise,I was actually suprised they travelled the distance they did.
We don't have one component kicker at the moment so to have a right footed and left footed one to alternate that are equally as good is unlikely. Just give the responsibility to one of em and go with them,we did the same with Matty Smith,I'm sure Williams can reach a similar standard.'"
I just don't understand why Williams isn't kicking full stop. His technique looks ok and he isn't going to get better by getting taken off kicking duty after one miss.
Whoever is to kick for the rest of this year needs to be decided and they need to roll with it imo. If things got horrendously bad after 5 or 6 games then maybe have a rethink but we can't afford to keep swapping it about numerous times mid match.
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| Bring back Willie Peters
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| Williams looks knackered/injured to me. He goes down on his hands and knees after we score a try.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I just don't understand why Williams isn't kicking full stop. His technique looks ok and he isn't going to get better by getting taken off kicking duty after one miss.
Whoever is to kick for the rest of this year needs to be decided and they need to roll with it imo. If things got horrendously bad after 5 or 6 games then maybe have a rethink but we can't afford to keep swapping it about numerous times mid match.'"
Couldn't agree more.
Williams is practically guaranteed a place therefore, ideally I'd like to think he could become the regular kicker longer term. If he has a low success rate short term so be it as long as there is some genuine improvement in his technique over a period.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"Couldn't agree more.
Williams is practically guaranteed a place therefore, ideally I'd like to think he could become the regular kicker longer term. If he has a low success rate short term so be it as long as there is some genuine improvement in his technique over a period.'"
Agreed, but we also need to be coaching 2 or 3 others to cover for injuries.
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| Quote ="Geoff"Agreed, but we also need to be coaching 2 or 3 others to cover for injuries.'"
If I were a player in the squad who's touch and go for a place in the starting 13 or even the 17, I would be putting hour after hour in to practicing goalkicking in the hope that it would help nail a spot.
I'm thinking guys like Escare, Powell, Marshall etc. If everyone is fit at the start of 2018 then those three may not be guaranteed of a spot. If they could get themselves up to being a 75%+ goal kicker though it would be tough to leave them out.
Easier said then done though.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"If I were a player in the squad who's touch and go for a place in the starting 13 or even the 17, I would be putting hour after hour in to practicing goalkicking in the hope that it would help nail a spot.
I'm thinking guys like Escare, Powell, Marshall etc. If everyone is fit at the start of 2018 then those three may not be guaranteed of a spot. If they could get themselves up to being a 75%+ goal kicker though it would be tough to leave them out.
Easier said then done though.'"
Perhaps, though I'm not sure Wane would take that into account when selecting a side, it just seems to be very low priority for him.
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| Quote ="NSW"I'd go
Davies ( safe under the high ball, good kick returner)
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Fell and Tierney to miss out.
Attack to go down the left side with Joel, Williams, Gildart and Burgess.'"
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| Burgess' defence at centre is awful. Need him back on the wing asap.
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| Leuluai can't kick for toffee.
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| We are playing awful,our last tackle plays even worse.
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| Quote ="P-J"Leuluai can't kick for toffee.'"
It's dreadful. Why do we keep persisting with it? Williams must be carrying an injury like I posted the other day.
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| Tautai has been garbage since he signed a new contract. What a coincidence.
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| Maybe Bilko should slag them off on Twitter again?
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| Quote ="MattyB"Maybe Bilko should slag them off on Twitter again?'"
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| So Leigh knock on three times in that set, but somehow get two penalties?
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| Half time and possibly the most stupid performance Iv ever seen from an RL team. No look passes, toothless high kicks that we stand back and let them catch, panic offloads and knock ons galore.
Injuries dont excuse stupidity. Terrible from Wigan.
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| No injuries to blame for tonight's performance,we are lucky we are still in the game,Leigh are making so much easy yards,if we don't stop that we won't win.
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| The lack of a kicker is disgraceful.
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