I don't think it was a try, what did you think of Sam Tomkins try?

But that aint the rule!

How could the VR rule no try? Had the ref signalled a try and not gone to the VR you would have criticised him! Unless the rules are changed we must abide by what is in black and white at present. It mattered not anyway, Wigan were far too good for Cas tonight. By the way I have not heard Powell complaining about the refs performance tonight.

No.

Told you on Tuesday... It's all the ref's fault.


We outplayed and overpowered Cas in all aspects of the game. There are no talking points here i am afraid. We won, we deserved to win but as usual because we are Wigan and jealousy is rife we shouldn't have won because of this or that.

Best team won and best team will win the final and good luck to whoever it may be i say. If Cas had of beaten us today i would probably slate decisions by certain players and the coach and congratulate the opposition but some fans just love to hate Wigan because we are the benchmark of success (although Leeds have had a bloody good go in the last 10 years) i would say that Leeds have achieved more but Grand Final's have only been around for 20 odd years so we can't really count that on past history because we would have won a pon full



Also, suffolk tiger has posted a good message on the cas forum named 'despite everything'.... Somebody who hasn't just come up for the day and judged us but he went to Sam's bar in scholes, that's a tough audition of Wiganers, and still enjoyed his weekend. If you are reading this suffolktiger, fair play to you mon but may i suggest a better drinking hovel next time

Owned.

Not for the first time in his life, I suspect.

Not a try for me but at least it has given the cas lot something to moan about and more ammo for their conspiracy theories

At least the Cas fans had fun in the 2nd half by playing games whilst the game in flow.

I wasn't very clear there. The second paragraph is what I think the rule should be.

As I said on the VT, you'd have to say from the way the ball moves that he did touch this. https://youtu.be/fAwgo_XlbHk

As I said on the VT, you'd have to say from the way the ball moves that he did touch this. https://youtu.be/fAwgo_XlbHk

Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"As I said on the VT, you'd have to say from the way the ball moves that he did touch this. https://youtu.be/fAwgo_XlbHk'" From the close up it does look as though there was the slightest of touches so under the rules it was the right decision. I've debated this on the VT several times. I don't like what is dubbed 'finger tip control', I'd like the rule to go back to actually having control of the ball. I see why the on field decision should influence the VR. Either hand it up or don't IMO.

Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"As I said on the VT, you'd have to say from the way the ball moves that he did touch this. https://youtu.be/fAwgo_XlbHk'" From the close up it does look as though there was the slightest of touches so under the rules it was the right decision. I've debated this on the VT several times. I don't like what is dubbed 'finger tip control', I'd like the rule to go back to actually having control of the ball. I see why the on field decision should influence the VR. Either hand it up or don't IMO.

Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"As I said on the VT, you'd have to say from the way the ball moves that he did touch this. https://youtu.be/fAwgo_XlbHk'" Even with that close-up it's inconclusive, I'd lean more towards saying he missed it though tbh. But unless we get ultra HD replays of things like this there will always be an element of uncertainty with the VR. Every club gets these decisions for and against them, go back a few months and we had one that arguably cost us a grand final. Swings and roundabouts, innit.

Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"As I said on the VT, you'd have to say from the way the ball moves that he did touch this. https://youtu.be/fAwgo_XlbHk'" Even with that close-up it's inconclusive, I'd lean more towards saying he missed it though tbh. But unless we get ultra HD replays of things like this there will always be an element of uncertainty with the VR. Every club gets these decisions for and against them, go back a few months and we had one that arguably cost us a grand final. Swings and roundabouts, innit.

I think that all of us from outside the promised land should stop our foodbank subscription to feed the wigginers

........ Says the man from the most poverty ridden part of WIGAN. You gimp....

Yeah I can, can you?

Under the rule it was a try because the ref gave a try on field but then there wasn't sufficient evidence to over turn it in the eyes of the VR. However in my view there wasn't sufficient evidence that it was a try. I immediately said no try and having watched it several times I haven't changed my view. If the on-field ref had given no try then there is no way that the VR would have given it. I will still unashamedly take it given that the first Cas try was from a clear forward pass. However I do wonder if the rule needs tweaking. I understand why it was changed but in some cases maybe the ref can call a 'don't know' try and hand it to the VR for a decision one way or the other. I know it is difficult because we would have to guard against the on field ref. Using it too often. Maybe he can only use it once in a game? Or maybe each team's captain can have one challenge call per game which would force a VR decision?

Very good idea

But isn't that why the ref sends it up to the VR in the first place?

The promised land is subsidised by the council tax from the workers of Leigh nob ed

No. The on-field ref has to say one way or the other even if he genuinely doesn't know. His view then effectively restricts what the VR can do. We are effectively asking the on-field ref to guess!

If the ref is unsure then he should not be made to make a decision either way and hand it straight to the VT, scrap this finger tip control crap and get back to a full hand with downward pressure, then we don't have all the unsurety.

OK Wigan won convincingly, but what if it was a close game and that dodgy Try was the 78th minute match winner for either side? Very unfair rule and should be changed asap!

Write to HQ in Leeds.

Stop boring us with this thinly veiled pretence of yours.

How much does that gut you?

Are you a stalker? Reasonable debate this, join in or sod off with your childish drivel

Yes it's annoying when some people are trying to have a sensible debate and then others try to throw it off course with juvenile insults.