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| You can't knock the fight in this team can you! Fantastic result that. We can talk about letting another lead slip but with a young side blips like that are to be expected but to keep coming back is fantastic.
I've said from the start of the year we just need to keep picking them off and wait for the injured players to get back. To be missing Joel Tomkins, Sam Tomkins, Micky Mac and Lockers tonight and still get the victory in those circumstances is very pleasing.
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| That will do the team the power of good. The talk this week was all about Hull, how big their pack is, the good form they are in...etc.
To lose Lockers just before kick off was a massive blow but what a win!! I had to make do with twitter updates so if anyone could let us know how the team performed overall that would be great!
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| Their last try was clearly in touch as well.
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| That's the issue you get with not having video refs at all games I suppose. You'd still expect a tough judge to spot that though.
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Coaches comments:
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/35697893
Hull FC head coach Lee Radford:
Quote "I thought we did enough to get the result but it was not to be. We dominated territory and field position.
"What was disappointing was having so much possession down their end and not getting as much as we could.
"The game was played down their end of the field. I can't knock their efforts but we've got to get better in a couple of areas."'"
Wigan head coach Shaun Wane:
Quote "We showed some character and I am very proud of all my players, it was an outstanding effort.
"We had virtually no ball in the second half and our completion rate was at 70%.
"The two drop goals were really good ones, but I'm happy because I believe Hull will beat many teams. Teams will come here and get pummelled.
"We are four from four and not played - we will improve for Leeds next week, another challenge and the players are buzzing."'"
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Hull FC head coach Lee Radford:
Quote "I thought we did enough to get the result but it was not to be. We dominated territory and field position.
"What was disappointing was having so much possession down their end and not getting as much as we could.
"The game was played down their end of the field. I can't knock their efforts but we've got to get better in a couple of areas."'"
Wigan head coach Shaun Wane:
Quote "We showed some character and I am very proud of all my players, it was an outstanding effort.
"We had virtually no ball in the second half and our completion rate was at 70%.
"The two drop goals were really good ones, but I'm happy because I believe Hull will beat many teams. Teams will come here and get pummelled.
"We are four from four and not played - we will improve for Leeds next week, another challenge and the players are buzzing."'"
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| I wasn't confident of a win but I thought even our lack lustre attack would score points against them. In their two home games before today they conceded a total of 51 points.
And now another 26 and so that is just over 25 points a match average at home conceded. That is not a good home record.
What I didn't expect was us to leak almost as many points as them. Our defence has been very good and arguably it has what has won us the three previous games. I suppose Lockers being out didn't help on that score.
It will be interesting to see what Wane does at full back now. Sarge to FB and Gildart in the side was something several people including myself suggested before the season started when we knew Sam was out.
It would be no slight on Tierney for him to have a rest. No sense in over playing a young player but Wane can be a bit of a slow learner. He gets presented with a better selection but whether out of stubbornness or loyalty doesn't seem to act until he'd look daft not to.
Finally, well done Matty Smith. Cool head with the DG's.
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| Quote ="DaveO"I wasn't confident of a win but I thought even our lack lustre attack would score points against them. In their two home games before today they conceded a total of 51 points.
And now another 26 and so that is just over 25 points a match average at home conceded. That is not a good home record.
What I didn't expect was us to leak almost as many points as them. Our defence has been very good and arguably it has what has won us the three previous games. I suppose Lockers being out didn't help on that score.
It will be interesting to see what Wane does at full back now. Sarge to FB and Gildart in the side was something several people including myself suggested before the season started when we knew Sam was out.
It would be no slight on Tierney for him to have a rest. No sense in over playing a young player but Wane can be a bit of a slow learner. He gets presented with a better selection but whether out of stubbornness or loyalty doesn't seem to act until he'd look daft not to.
Finally, well done Matty Smith. Cool head with the DG's.'"
I thought I draw would have been fair result, once again we at least matched you in the pack, but you extra class and pace in the backs was the different, Gelling was excellent and got you out of trouble a few times. Thought you played smarter than us also. You goal line defence was excellent except a 15 min spell. Thought Thaler was ok, he seemed to give everything to one side for 10mins then change.
I don't think we are far off, just need to play smarter and improve our goal line defence, you will be a top 2 side, hopefully we won't be far off you.
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| Just had a quick look at the stats. Great efforts from:
Mossop - most metres out of all of our players and averaged over 8m per carry
Powell - 45 tackles, joint highest with Houghton
Bateman - 40 tackles and 17 carries, only one error
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| Quote ="DaveO"
It will be interesting to see what Wane does at full back now. Sarge to FB and Gildart in the side was something several people including myself suggested before the season started when we knew Sam was out.
It would be no slight on Tierney for him to have a rest. No sense in over playing a young player but Wane can be a bit of a slow learner. He gets presented with a better selection but whether out of stubbornness or loyalty doesn't seem to act until he'd look daft not to.
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Waney confirms that it was a planned tactical switch, hence having Gildart on the bench:
[urlhttp://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2016-03-04-click-into-gear[/url
Quote Speaking after the game, the Warriors Head Coach said:
“People might have questioned why I had Gily (Oliver Gildart) on the bench against a team with a lot of big middles but I needed cover. I also wanted to see how Sarg (Dan Sarginson) went at full-back and we switched him late on. Gily came in and created something straight away and Sarg did too.
“Lewis had a knock last week but was ok today, I just wanted to see how Sarg went. I’m happy with how Lewis has gone this past few weeks, I just needed something to get us into gear and it (the substitution) did that today.”
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| How on earth have you guys not lost a game!!!
Got to hand it to you, you've scrapped a hell of a lot better than we have.
Its these kinds of results that seem predict you guys finishing top, looks like you or wire atm, unless our second half to the regular season this year is like our first last year.
You guys will be massive favourites on sunday with what looks like 2 more injuries for us, taking us up to 9 in total I think, If we win it will possibly be our best weekly round result in a few years
You guys feeling confident?
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"How on earth have you guys not lost a game!!!
Got to hand it to you, you've scrapped a hell of a lot better than we have.
Its these kinds of results that seem predict you guys finishing top, looks like you or wire atm, unless our second half to the regular season this year is like our first last year.
You guys will be massive favourites on sunday with what looks like 2 more injuries for us, taking us up to 9 in total I think, If we win it will possibly be our best weekly round result in a few years
You guys feeling confident?'"
Feeling extremely confident about Sunday although not quite as confident about Friday. Nice to get your nine injuries in, pity our 6 injuries doesn't quite match it but there you go.
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"How on earth have you guys not lost a game!!!
Got to hand it to you, you've scrapped a hell of a lot better than we have.
Its these kinds of results that seem predict you guys finishing top, looks like you or wire atm, unless our second half to the regular season this year is like o
You guys will be massive favourites on sunday with what looks like 2 more injuries for us, taking us up to 9 in total I think, If we win it will possibly be our best weekly round result in a few years
You guys feeling confident?'" Just Leeds have injuries?
Should Sam Tomkins, Joel Tomkins, Dom Crosby, Willie Isa, Micky McIlorum, Sean O'Loughlin be fit I'd be very confident.
If Leeds back line clicks they'll be hard to handle
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| Super League Dream Team points from this game for Tierney & Gildart
Tierney - on field for 70 mins - 7 points
Gildart - on field for 10 mins - 8 points
Tierney has been good so far this season but this was his poorest game and this dream team score indicates to me that he didn't get involved enough in this game or was carrying an injury. He did get an awful pass from Smith early in the game on the 5th tackle that meant he had to hurry a kick and I seem to recall he came away from the tackle limping.
His dream team average for his previous games this season is 23.
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"How on earth have you guys not lost a game!!!
Got to hand it to you, you've scrapped a hell of a lot better than we have.
Its these kinds of results that seem predict you guys finishing top, looks like you or wire atm, unless our second half to the regular season this year is like our first last year.
You guys will be massive favourites on sunday with what looks like 2 more injuries for us, taking us up to 9 in total I think, If we win it will possibly be our best weekly round result in a few years
You guys feeling confident?'"
We've found ways to win ala Leeds over the years with Sinfield and Peacock on board. We've done that without a raft of first teamers which is hugely encouraging.
Leeds can get all the players back they want but ultimately the glue of the side, the heartbeat, the leaders, what ever you want to call them aka Sinfield and Peacock will continue to play rugby union and call the shots at HKR.
The amount of points those two have dragged you to over the years must be massive and that's already being highlighted.
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| Quote ="NSW"Just Leeds have injuries?
Should Sam Tomkins, Joel Tomkins, Dom Crosby, Willie Isa, Micky McIlorum, Sean O'Loughlin be fit I'd be very confident.
If Leeds back line clicks they'll be hard to handle'"
Calm down guys I know you have injuries too!
Its just ours seem to be affecting us more, probably due the benefits you guys playing a more structured game and at least still having your first choice 7 (a big reason for our backline not being so involved)
Do you guys think that the fact that last year the top teams all had to play 35 games plus (with more against the top teams) is the reason that the top 4 from last year all have an injury crisis?
Definitely something the rfl needs to look at
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"=#FF0000Calm down guys I know you have injuries too!
Its just ours seem to be affecting us more, probably due the benefits you guys playing a more structured game and at least still having your first choice 7 (a big reason for our backline not being so involved)
Do you guys think that the fact that last year the top teams all had to play 35 games plus (with more against the top teams) is the reason that the top 4 from last year all have an injury crisis?
Definitely something the rfl needs to look at'"
Wigan had their four top earners missing on Friday, I don't think that will apply to Leeds.
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| J.Tomkins is one of our top 4 earners..?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Wigan had their four top earners missing on Friday, I don't think that will apply to Leeds.'"
No idea who are top earners are, especially younger players like Hardaker and watkins, so it is possible but unlikely , how do you know e.g. farell isnt on more?
Did you read the rest of the post? or just saw it was from a leeds fan and felt compelled to be confrontational?
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Wigan had their four top earners missing on Friday, I don't think that will apply to Leeds.'"
No idea who are top earners are, especially younger players like Hardaker and watkins, so it is possible but unlikely , how do you know e.g. farell isnt on more?
Did you read the rest of the post? or just saw it was from a leeds fan and felt compelled to be confrontational?
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A few people do seem to be a bit touchy!
As for your original post, its always hard to be confident against Leeds. I know we'll go in favourites but a Leeds team with nothing to lose will be very difficult. I would probably guess at a narrow Leeds win but we do seem to be developing a good habit of grinding out results lately.
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| Leeds fans have the biggest spread... From sensible posters worth reading, to yer typical chip on shoulder Yarkshire man..
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| Quote ="MadDogg"A few people do seem to be a bit touchy!
As for your original post, its always hard to be confident against Leeds. I know we'll go in favourites but a Leeds team with nothing to lose will be very difficult. I would probably guess at a narrow Leeds win but we do seem to be developing a good habit of grinding out results lately.'"
Wouldn't say we had nothing to lose, we need to start picking up points fast or playoffs will be an uphill battle
If we dont improve I cant see us scoring more than once and you guys and you guys are rightly favourites
We always seem to get rough calls at the DW (you did a bit at Headingly last year tbf) and if it is a weak minded ref then we could get killed
But who knows, JJB and Falloon are possible I think, maybe that's what's been missing...
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"We've found ways to win ala Leeds over the years with Sinfield and Peacock on board. We've done that without a raft of first teamers which is hugely encouraging.
Leeds can get all the players back they want but ultimately the glue of the side, the heartbeat, the leaders, what ever you want to call them aka Sinfield and Peacock will continue to play rugby union and call the shots at HKR.
The amount of points those two have dragged you to over the years must be massive and that's already being highlighted.'"
True they did, however in 2015 throughout the regular season they weren't that important in getting us to top spot.
Losing the 2 legends was always going to be hard, but it's effectively become losing 3 guys considering McGuire's absence and we would've won against Warrington and Catalans had he stayed fit IMO given the closeness of the games (2 and 4pts respectively). Also undervalued just how good Paul Aiton was for us last year, comfortably in our top 3 performers last year before his injury.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"True they did, however in 2015 throughout the regular season they weren't that important in getting us to top spot.
Losing the 2 legends was always going to be hard, but it's effectively become losing 3 guys considering McGuire's absence and we would've won against Warrington and Catalans had he stayed fit IMO given the closeness of the games (2 and 4pts respectively). Also undervalued just how good Paul Aiton was for us last year, comfortably in our top 3 performers last year before his injury.'"
McGuire will add plenty from a directional point by of view although I'm still unconvinced he's got the mentality of a captain because he's too emotional.
I agree about Aiton, he was very good last year. When is Faloon fit? I don't know a great deal about him but he's the replacement and you presume they must see plenty in him. I like Lilley and see him playing more at 9 then in the halves long term. Maybe it's just his build but he looks suited to the position and could really get the side around the field from dummy half.
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| There was a spell in the second half when we just couldn't get the ball back, but when we did we kept cool and won at the death. Well done to Matty for his two drop goals, and well done to Lee Mossop for being the best prop, even though he did drop a couple. Our defence was impressive, and it needed to be.
However, unlike Shaun Wane who thought the props were excellent I thought that we were poor in this department. Taylor and Ellis were the outstanding props on the field. There was a noticeable drop in intensity for Hull when Taylor went off. It highlighted what we are missing. Flower, Sutton and Clubb were very poor. Mossop the best of a bad bunch though Tautai does continue to improve from last season. Burke, who had played well the previous week, was very poor too. We missed Lockers.
All the backs were good. Special mention to Josh who ran hard and I was made up for him when he got that try at the death. Also George Williams who had a very good game and his defence especially on our line was impressive.
All in all it was a good result without Lockers, Micky, Sam, Joel and Willie Isa.
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