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Is Sutton leaving?

Rumour on the other board that Sutton has signed for a Sydney club.

A real shame if true but we'll hopefully get a clause to get him back at some point.

Shame to see him go (if there is truth in the rumour). Been really impressed with his appearances thus far. Tackled well, made good metres and hasn't been dominated by older, more experienced props.

Not heard this Sutton one but if the confirmed departures of Green and Goulding are added to the rumoured/expected ones of Taylor, James, Sutton, Dudson and possibly Bowen then it's hardly an exodus like what we have seen in previous years. Green and Bowen were expected to leave at the end of this season (I think Bowen will do another year FWIW) and out of the others Taylor is the only one guaranteed to make our strongest 17 every week, and if rumours are to be believed it's him who wants the move.

Obviously the loss of 4 forwards would mean we would need to recruit probably another 1 or 2 alongside Tautai and Tomkins, but it's early days as far as our recruitment goes so I'll reserve judgement until we know exactly who else is leaving and coming in. All the club have said so far is they aren't looking elsewhere to replace Green and Goulding (not something I massively agree with, particularly the latter).

Must admit read all the rumours but didnt see it coming off to be honest. Read your posts and obviously you pies still rate the guy. Big well done to rovers to get him, our big gain your loss. From what ive seen of wigan this season i would,nt worry to much about your next mass player exodus...exiting times ahead. Dont think my other rovers fan,s cheeky rumour about Travis Burns will happen...would,nt fit in. Too old

Yes. We lost as game to Leeds when Noble was coach and Goulding was dropped when there were at least half a dozen other players equally at fault for the loss but as was his want Noble cast the blame towards a young player. He hardly got a look in again pretty much like several young players back then.

There was plenty of discussion about this at the time.

His career only got back on track after Noble left and since then when fit he tends to play so what does that say if not he is a first choice centre?



He was injured in Madge's 2nd year for most of the season. He has had an injury this year as well and as regards being dropped for the Cas game alongside Taylor there was plenty of dissent about that decision!

On this seasons form Goulding is well back in third place for the centre positions. Goulding, 1 try, 2 clean breaks, 2 try assists, 738 metres, 22 tackle busts 182 tackles, 12 errors, 2 penalties, 22 missed tackles. Sarginson, 7 tries, 8 clean breaks, 7 try assists, 1480 metres, 53 tackle busts 131 tackles, 12 errors, 2 penalties, 26 missed tackles. Gelling 6 tries, 6 clean breaks, 5 try assists, 1751 metres, 45 tackle busts 132 tackles, 13 errors, 3 penalties, 19 missed tackles www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/1806 www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/11190 www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/20446 Obviously the other big advantage that Sarginson and Gelling have is that they can also cover other positions.

On this seasons form Goulding is well back in third place for the centre positions. Goulding, 1 try, 2 clean breaks, 2 try assists, 738 metres, 22 tackle busts 182 tackles, 12 errors, 2 penalties, 22 missed tackles. Sarginson, 7 tries, 8 clean breaks, 7 try assists, 1480 metres, 53 tackle busts 131 tackles, 12 errors, 2 penalties, 26 missed tackles. Gelling 6 tries, 6 clean breaks, 5 try assists, 1751 metres, 45 tackle busts 132 tackles, 13 errors, 3 penalties, 19 missed tackles www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/1806 www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/11190 www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/20446 Obviously the other big advantage that Sarginson and Gelling have is that they can also cover other positions.

And they have not had a recurring knee injury since the World Club Challenge and played in games when they really shouldnt have done. They have also not been dealing with contract negotiations and signed for another club 2 months ago. I am sure this hasnt had anything to do with Goulding's form this season though

What's Darrell having for his tea tonight, Mrs Goulding?

So basically you agree his form hasn't been as good as the other two? And Gelling has been in contract negotiations.

It's his decision, and he has taken it. Good luck to him I hope all goes well at HKR.

Also if he has this recurring knee problem then maybe that's a reason why Wigan weren't keen on a longer term deal?

nearly said something similiar myself yesterday

What are try assists? I thought that Goulding had a significant role in 3 of Charnley's tries against Widnes?

In the last second against Saints last week, with the ball travelling along the line and Josh on the outside, would you prefer Goulding, Gelling or Sarginson at centre?

Whichever one was fully fit and in form

There's a highlights video called "Darrell Goulding - Wigan Warriors Highlights" on youtube which sums him up pretty well tbh. It's one of the most boring player highlights videos I've ever seen which emphasises that he is solid and not flashy. It also shows just how much time and space Tomkins created for him chiming in and making a 3 on 2.

I'm not slating Goulding nor am I only having a go because he's leaving. I had a good few discussions on the VT that he should've been in the England squad (as a centre) after the 2012 season, but in all honesty he has gone backwards since then. He'll be 27 next year and I imagine expecting one of his most lucrative contracts, and if he's not a guaranteed starter at Wigan he's not going to get that here.

best centre gone

FFS its a few clips that someone has done from about 4 games from last season, I suppose any reason to knock him. Funny how all the posters that have always criticised Goulding are still the ones criticising him to the end.

Personally I think he is the best centre at the club and it wasn't that long ago there was uproar on here that he wasn't in the England squad. I didn't think he was international standard personally but many on here did. However like whenever anyone dares to leave our club people soon pretend said player is rubbish. You only have to look at the laughable charnley thread a few months ago when he was rumoured to be leaving as evidence.

No one is saying he is rubbish, just that he's the third best centre at the club and that it's probably for the best all round that he'll be at a club where he gets a spot every week. Let's be honest, I seriously doubt Saints, Leeds or Warrington will have been chasing his signature

Still on your crusade repeating the same nonsense.

You forgot to add this is all in your opinion which you try to dress up as fact. Obviously in many peoples eyes you are wrong and most people I know think he is the best centre at the club and by some distance. I would also much rather base my opinion on the last couple of years rather than the last couple of months when Gelling only got a game after Goulding told the club he wouldnt be staying, strange that. You have not got a clue who was chasing his signature either and I believe that Saints were indeed chasing his signature but he didnt even entertain the idea. If you think that Goulding wouldnt have been in demand you are living in lala land.

No matter how much you criticise Goulding it doesnt make your beloved Gelling a decent centre either.

It was uploaded by Joshua Parr who was head performance analyst. I've never been critical of Goulding until this season, in fact I was a big fan of his and was saying he should have been in the England squad in 2012. I'm not entirely confident that Gelling/Sarginson/Thornley provides enough quality at centre but I've been equally unimpressed with Daz this year, he looks unfit and those stats that Rogues has posted are pretty abysmal. I wouldn't have been on here screaming that he should go but now that it's been confirmed he's off I can see where the coaching staff are coming from.

True but I doubt either of those said clubs would want to sign gelling or sarginson either and therein lies the point. Goulding is the only out and out centre we have. I can't see gelling or sarge doing a grubber play like goulding did on the biggest stage of all to put charnley away and put us in front. That type of natural centre play comes from playing the position for a number of years. This is no way a dig at gelling or sarge who I think have done a reasonable job stepping in. Gildart looks like he has potential but is at least a year or two off first team level yet. If we're not going to sign anyone I think this leaves us weaker in an already weak position.