Also re attendance look at the away fans who come, remember when North Stand used to be nearly full, Bradford, Leeds, Wire, Stains, Hull, not anymore, money is tight and at the moment it is a 3 game season, come on RFL sort it out. Get rid of Monday night Thursday night games. The league leaders should be straight to the GF, 2nd and 3rd play off for the other spot simple.

To be fair to Huddersfield they have improved their academy systems over the past few years. They beat Leeds and Saints at U19 level this year. Maybe they too have "seen the light"

Me....season ticket since 1994......this year? nope!..... watched 2 home games all season, CBA going last Friday night and CBA going next week either....I'd rather watch Pats these days, but I will be back at some point (waits for the lynching posse) but not next year.

Here's your medal.

Who the hell do you think you are.....your a sad plank, slagging off Wigan fans that can't or won't buy season tickets for whatever reason suits them..none of your business i suggest.

We win the grand final and I bet a lot if people will come back. After winning it in 2010, if I remember rightly, attendances went up.

I had a season ticket since 88 didnt bother this year as its boring now and id rather spend my time with my family as opposed to the gamebeing over by half time. However my high score on angry birds has taken a tumble as that was my second half entertainment most weeks.

Nothing to do with cant afford it as well im minted like you and also too hate the rest of the peasants!

Can i have a medal also?

I have been to 1 game since the end of the 09 season and that was on a cheap NHS ticket (having kids aint cheap) but me and the mrs are having a rare weekend off from parenting and have booked our GF tickets

What a fookin you are! No season ticket for me and the wife this year due to redundancy, or should I have made a St more of a priority than food on the table?

I now have a job, but still no ST next year due to working nights in this new role. I will be there Saturday if thats ok with tw@s like you as I don't work saturday nights.

More than happy to have a discussion with you F2F by the busby statue on Saturday, lets see if you have the guts to slag off the less fortunate then. Bring plenty of money.... Food in salford royal is rank but maccies is near by and I'm sure someone will go get you some.

Same things happening at most places. At Warrington the biggest drop in attendance is in the away end. Hasn't been anywhere near full all season, even for games against Stains, Widnes or yourselves. People just aren't travelling to away games in the numbers they did - Our (wire) travelling support is well down on the last few seasons. Two of the lads I normally travel with haven't been to any away games this season because of losing their jobs last year. I expect lower attendances are partly to do with stupid scheduling but mainly down to the simple fact money is tight.

Yes money is tight, but it hasn't affected football attendances as much.

Rugby League prices are pretty reasonable especially for kids/students/OAPs. I'd like to see concessions for the low-waged - but how the club would administer that I've no idea.

For me part of the problem is the way the competition has been devalued by the 8 team playoff. The league season now means nothing as Leeds proved winning from 5th and we will prove by winning from 4th. It makes games in July and August meaningless if you've already qualified. The Saints away game was a good example. No-one was really that bothered by the defeat at the time and it proved to be meaningless in the context of the season. At least the old playoff system guaranteed some benefit to coming 1st or 2nd.

So I blame the RFL and Sky for devaluing the league. However, that then doesn't explain why the playoff attendances are so poor. Getting 15,600 for Friday's game, the biggest home game of the season was a poor effort. There will be 30,000 Wigan followers at OT paying about twice as much.

Correct it's not my business. And that's why I'm not slagging off anyone. My point is I'm sick of reading posts on here about why people can't get to games. Bores the hell out of me but they feel the need to justify themselves to people they've never met on here.

Bottom line is the club aren't that bothered about losing a few games in the regular season because the current system means the overall aim is not affected and some clubs don't present any form of challenge to our first choice 17. On that basis fans will also decide which games they don't mind missing and they may also decide they don't need to commit to attending every home game in the same way the club don't have to commit to playing their strongest 17 to win every home game. You reap what you sow I'm afraid.

What did surprise me is the number of ST holders that normally sit around me that didn't bother turning up on Friday. A game we obviously wanted to win, against tough opposition, with a decent away following and the last home game until February.

I have never ever agreed with you before, but that statement is absolutely spot on. I am sick and tired of some RL supporters wanting something for nothing. It's exactly the same at Wire, people constantly moaning. The same people are always at the front of the queue when it comes to finals.

It has at the DW - the average is almost 25% down on last seasons figure.

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Did he say what you have written in the last sentence there or is that your conclusion? I agree by the way but the reason I ask is if he didn't he's missing the obvious in that even if Widnes etc were more competitive unless the money flows into the game and into the players pockets they will still leave.

While its also interesting he blamed the clubs and I don't disagree with that, I don't think we are blame-free as a club either. We let players leave without much of a fight and so are thus contributing to any lowering of standards in the game. There has been a thread recently where it was suggested our chairman's apparent wish to be a big fish in a small pond was as far the ambition went and I don't think we can seriously blame other clubs for Sam's departure given the nature of the contract he signed. Sam might very well think the sport here is not competitive enough but it is IMO a bit of a cop out to use that as an excuse for Sam's departure. It's almost as if he is saying our best players may as well follow suit which is the wrong message. Has the clubs management raised the white flag in attempts to have the best players here and are they trying to blame others for this?

No, we can't. Bayern Munich get far more than RL. Do you really think that if Wigan halved their prices they would double their gates? They would get an increase, but would lose a lot of money. The name bradford Bulls springs to mind.

Its called perspective, I as a fan in the free world demand to watch my team at £10 a go. Bayern Munich is run by the fans for the fans, do a little research and you'll find the Germans have got it spot on. Anything is possible if it is managed properly with the right motives.

I couldn't agree more about the German model when it comes to football. They have a great system typified by the 50%+1 rule of ownership. Having said that you can't just pitch up in Munich one weekend and expect to get a £10 ticket on a terrace, but the principle remains and having been to Germany to watch Fussball I can discuss this all night,
But this is an RL forum and the rules of ownership and price structure can never be compared with RL.

No but having to pay for an expensive ticket to make up for the failings of the game is almost like paying for the failings of bankers and I won't be brain washed into either. The German fans boycotted matches and the clubs listened, thats a lesson our football clubs are frightened of. However, rugby clubs could do something similar because there arent the bigtime players in RL like there are in football. Similarly look at box nation- where the boxers created their own station which gives them more power to govern themselves and attract advertisers. Anything is possible....

I didn't say I couldn't go, I just said I can't be 4rsed..... despite the wealth of talent we have at Wigan, both at senior and under 19s level, because the wealth of talent isn't reciprocated throughout superleague, most of the games are about as exciting as cramp, as somebody put it earlier I'm not buying a season ticket to watch substandard opposition and our team not trying so hard. And when you haven't got a season ticket you kind of get out of the habit and then you suddenly realise there's more to life.

Do you perhaps think, that maybe that might be due to them getting relegated - just a guess -

Are you going to continue ignoring the overall conditions of the game in the UK forever ... or until we get a new chairman? (And how long will your support for that one last? One day, two, three ... until it becomes apparent that he isn't going to sign the entire NSW squad?)

Do you simply refuse to accept that British RL is currently up against it in a way the likes of Mo never experienced during his first tenure?

Is there any point in me mentioning the NRL, the cashed-up Rugby Union, the ineptitude of Red Hall, the comparative strength of the pound, the gradual financial collapse of the rest of SL, the game's steadily shrinking profile, etc ... or is it genuinely the case that in your mind none of that is in any way responsible for the fact that Wigan can no longer field a team full of world class superstars?

You really are a stuck record, Dave. I expected you to have a field day when ST's departure was finally announced, but you and your mates have actually surpassed that expectation, making up for your lack of numbers with endless, repetitive posts. You're not the only ones who feel anger and betrayal that Sam has gone, and think that maybe the club could have handled it better, but most of us on here are pragmatic enough to see that sometimes you have to make the best you can out of bad but inevitable situations.

I find it incredible that you expect your opinion to have some weight on a Wigan Warriors Forum when you "can't be 4sed" to go to watch.

How do you know the opposition is sub standard and how do you know that Wigan don't try so hard?

It doesn't look that way to me from where I'm sitting. Still I only go to watch the games.

I saw some pretty competetive games against Cas home and away, Widnes away, Wakey home and away - actually. even the HUll KR away game was enjoyable watching us set the record for points scored and if you missed the London away game then you missed the individual performance of the season from Sam, worth £20 of anyone's money I'll bet (but not yours obviously).