To be honest I'd probably agree with yourself and just put Hampshire in to the halves but I was just responding to that suggestion. I wouldn't be against either but Hampshire certainly looks more of a halfback. I wasn't at the game but I believe he had a corker against Hull and wasn't he at 6?

We're already playing a stand off at full back

Will be the same team as against Leeds apart from Andy Powell making way for Dudson. Wane should have experimented last week and at the last 15 minutes of each half should have bought Sam Tomkins to 6 to run at tiring defenses.

Something Harris did for Leeds Rhinos. We play like a side full of Autism every thing we do is the same as the week before and before that in the League. We seem void if ideas and try scoring is now difficult against good sides.

He's equally as capable in both positions, but he's our first choice fullback and has played his best rugby there. He's certainly more of a fullback than Hampshire is.

Can't believe no one has put Taylor starting instead of Flower.

Also can't believe Burke isn't in at loose forward.

I quite fancy getting Burke in at loose forward. He's an excellent prospect and should add some freshness to the pack.

I'm not saying he isn't a capable fullback, I'm saying his best position (in my opinion) is stand off. Our attack is too predictable so any decent teams can mark him out of the game. If he plays stand off he'll have chance to do something with the ball rather than be a sitting duck waiting to get smashed.

which we desperately need (especially when L.Tomkins comes on...)

Also it was mentioned on here Burke had a death in the family, not sure whether he will be in the squad.

Good debate going on here.
My overriding thought here is that if we do the same as we do every time O'Loughlin is out we will get the same result. Defeat.
We need to change the team around now in order to find a way to win again and for me that means get your best attacking players on the ball more, even if we sacrifice a little defensive steel because of it. Lets go for it rather than just sticking another defender in there and limping out of the competition.

do you think he will play A. Powell or will he be sat out now till next season so he can get more experience in the first team?? really liked the look of him for the past few games when he's played, great try against Hull.

Tomkins
Charnley
Gelling
Thornley
Richards
Green
Smith
Mossop
Micky Mac
Flower
Hansen
Farrell
Tuson

Dudson
Taylor
Hughes
S Powell

That should be the team. Hughes and Sam Powell deserve a go IMO.

1. S Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Gelling
4. Thornley
5. Richards
6. Green
7. Smith
8. Taylor
9. McIlorum
10. Mossop
11. Hansen
12. Farrell
13. Burke

14. Flower
15. Crosby
16. Tuson
17. R Hampshire

Hampshire to come into the halves straight swaps throughout the game to add some much needed creativity.

Wane says Thornley is on a drip in hospital with gastroenteritis and Goulding suffered concussion again. Goulding shouldn't play and Thornley highly doubtful.

So Gelling and ? At centre. An interesting possibility is playing Green at centre, in a recent interview he says he was a utility player in Oz so will have players there before.

If Hughes ends up at 4 then Cudjoe will have a field day.

Anyone think he might go with Farrell at centre, like we did in the second half last week?

If anyone does they should go and see the physchiatrist!

Surely not even Wane is that daft...............or is he

I'd imagine Gelling would be over that side, staking a claim for the spot for the rest of the playoffs.

Rhodri Lloyd at 3? He played there with London.

A bit out there but I'd go:
RW 34 Burgess
RC 22 Gelling
LC 2 Charnley
LW 5 Richards

Charnley played centre when we loaned him to Hull KR in '10 and Burgess has looked great in the two games he's had, plus he's been tearing it up in the under 19s. Having said all that I'm sure Wane will play Hughes, who I really don't rate as a centre. Another option is Burgess straight in at centre, pretty sure he's played there for the 19s. If nowt else that backline has a hell of a lot of size (bar Charnley) and pace (bar Richards). Plus they all know their way over the line, which Goulding and Thornley aren't known for

Real problem with both centres out. Gelling will come in though Hughes at centre is not a good option. He's hardly played there this year. Maybe he'll put Pat at centre, he went there early 2nd half v Leeds for some reason.
My biggest worry is the pack and the "gameplan".
When we have Faz Tuson and H in the back three we get over run. They are not big enough. Hudds have some big men in their pack and we have to counter that.
Hope beyond hope is that we start an offloading game as Wire do, take them on up the middle, draw the big men in then offload and spin it out wide. Wire have run Hudds ragged with those tactics for years. We should try the same. Will we? No loving chance!
Same old, same old. Same old gameplan will mean same old result.

McIlorum has been injured in training and received 40 stitches to a cut in his mouth.

Not sure if it will threaten his participation on Thursday or not.

I'd go with:-

1. Richards
2. Charnley
3. Gelling
4. Thornley
5. Burgess
6. S Tomkins
7. Smith
8. Taylor
9. McIlorum
10. Mossop
11. Hansen
12. Farrell
13. Burke

14. Flower
15. Crosby
16. Tuson
17. R Hampshire

Apart from an odd flash of brilliance Green's kicking has been useless in recent games: Sam will add an element of uncertainty because the opposition will have forgotten how to deal with him. We need somebody that can think on his feet when a move gets blocked rather than the same old same old.

Pat at the back will be a solid last line of defence, a safe pair of hands, and he'll be on hand for the odd drop goal from the half way line!

Problem is at 13: I'd try Burke but have Flower or Tuson as options at changeover - maybe stay on for the rest of the game if any one of them is working.

I'd take the same old.

In 2010 we beat them 2 out of 3 times
In 2011 we hammered them at home and beat them away with a depleted side
In 2012 we lost narrowly at home and hammered them away

So, despite 2 defeats this year the same old would surely be a Wigan win?

were not in 2010,2011 or 2012 now.. This is 2013, this is the only year that matters

Almost true. What has happened this season no longer matters. It is all about how you play on the day.