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| Quote ="Albion"Hull KR were slowing us down with lying on and all sorts when they beat us the other week. They are the worst side in SL discipline-wise IMO.
There was no obstruction in the Hull KR try. If you think it was obstruction, then a lot of Wigan trys should be chalked off for the same reasoning too. Bad read from Hansen.
Forward pass from Eden to Gleeson was incorrectly called. You score off the next play and go in at HT 10-10.
Charnley's first VR call was a shocking decision, it was CLEARLY not a try. His second VR call was not so clear cut and initially I thought it was no try, but on the super zoom it appears it was a try.
That's the difference. You can use all the justification in the world about swings and roundabouts etc, but the one that CLEARLY wasn't a try was somehow given. You must be able to understand their frustrations.'"
Yet, given the season as a whole, which is the only way you can judge these things, is IS a case of swings and roundabouts. You may not like that - especially when Wigan appear to benefit, but you need to accept it.
Hull KR once won a game at Wigan because Silverwood allowed another tackle to be played AFTER the half-time hooter had gone. I didn't see too many neutrals complaining about that, so forgive me if I don't take your whingeing too seriously.
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| To the hull KR fan who was complaining that only one of their players got binned after a team warning. I don't think he was binned because of the team warning, it was more for the disgusting attempt to snap Ryan Hampshires ankle by twisting it when he was already tackled and on the floor.
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| Wigan looked poor last night and got few refs calls but I always say " playing bad and winning is sign of good team" and also had few out.
I wouldn't be to worried about last night if I was a Wigan fan. Your top of the league, in the final of the challenge cup so it's not bad.
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| At the game I said Charnleys second try wasn't a try, and having watched it again I still wouldn't give it.. However, his third one was, and Lauakis was. Initially Lauaki was just short but rolled the ball onto the line whilst remaining in contact at all time.
Watching Dobsons try that was as clear a case of obstruction as you will see. It wasn't a poor read by Hansen, the HKR player ran straight into him. Had Hansen played the "old soldier" and gone to ground it would have been brought to the attention of the referee, instead he still tried to make that tackle on Dobson.
Oh, and the forward pass on half time definitely was. It was directly in front of my seat in the West Stand.
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| Quote ="FIOS"The ref was just as bad for both teams, that ruck speed was awful it was just an awful game to watch, hull krs first two try's came from two obstructions but we won't see anyone mention that. We played as bad as we did vs Cas, luckily Hull KR are awful or it would have been another embarrassing home loss.'"
a 9-4 penalty count, play against 12 men, a try on the side line given and that's before we get to the cowardly antics of Mr. McCheapshot. Yes Mr. Hollywood and his video colleague were the same for both teams. Obstruction and ruck speed are subjective, putting a ball on a line and continually using you elbow and illegal wrestles are not.
As for Rovers being awful we're coming along nicely under our new coach thanks. You on the other hand look worryingly more and more a one man team as you performances and results without Tomkins prove. You must be looking forward to next year without him.
Better hope he's fit for Wembley and the play offs!
Apart from Farrel, Richards and Pee Wee you look pretty average to me especially your forwards.
Good luck next year without Sam and Pat you'll need it.
The officials continue to embarrass this great sport. Sharp has to go!
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"
Apart from Farrel, Richards and Pee Wee you look pretty average to me especially your forwards.
Good luck next year without Sam and Pat you'll need it.
The officials continue to embarrass this great sport. Sharp has to go!'"
What a gem of the post.
Pretty average BUT top points scorers, top of the league, Challenge Cup finalists.
"Good luck next year without blah blah blah" Heard it all before with Hanley, Edwards, Farrell, Lam, etc etc etc etc. Go and post on VT with the rest of the mid table teams fans all foaming at the mouth.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"a 9-4 penalty count, play against 12 men, a try on the side line given and that's before we get to the cowardly antics of Mr. McCheapshot. Yes Mr. Hollywood and his video colleague were the same for both teams. Obstruction and ruck speed are subjective, putting a ball on a line and continually using you elbow and illegal wrestles are not.
As for Rovers being awful we're coming along nicely under our new coach thanks. You on the other hand look worryingly more and more a one man team as you performances and results without Tomkins prove. You must be looking forward to next year without him.
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You haven't "come on" under your new coach, your still awful. As your league position proves.
Secondly, can you enlighten us all on an "illegal wrestle" please? Id love to find out what this is. When was an elbow used aswell? Didnt one of your players get binned for "wrestling" Ryan Hampshire's leg??
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| You had a lot of good players to cover the previous loses you don't have now nor does your chairman appear to be replacing them?
Just list me your results when Tomkins hasn't played over the past 2 seasons please.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"You had a lot of good players to cover the previous loses you don't have now nor does your chairman appear to be replacing them?
Just list me your results when Tomkins hasn't played over the past 2 seasons please.'"
It's true we have bad results when we don't have Sam playing, but we are still good enough to beat the rubbish teams....
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"You had a lot of good players to cover the previous loses you don't have now nor does your chairman appear to be replacing them?
Just list me your results when Tomkins hasn't played over the past 2 seasons please.'"
How do you know he isn't replacing them?? Do you work for Wigan??
We replaced Farrell, Barrett, Edwards, Gregory, Hanley etc etc etc
Your just praying we dont, like everyone else is. Now, il ask again, whats an illegal wrestle? And did one of yours get binned for wrestling Hampshire's leg???
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"You had a lot of good players to cover the previous loses you don't have now nor does your chairman appear to be replacing them?
Just list me your results when Tomkins hasn't played over the past 2 seasons please.'"
Id stop worrying about Wigan, and worry more about when relegation comes back. Weve never had to play a full 17 in any of the 3 games weve played against you this year, which is highly embarrassing for yourselves isn't it considering the amount of points we have stuck on you.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"a 9-4 penalty count, play against 12 men, a try on the side line given and that's before we get to the [ucowardly antics of Mr. McCheapshot.[/u Yes Mr. Hollywood and his video colleague were the same for both teams. Obstruction and ruck speed are subjective, putting a ball on a line and continually using you elbow and illegal wrestles are not.
As for Rovers being awful we're coming along nicely under our new coach thanks. You on the other hand look worryingly more and more a one man team as you performances and results without Tomkins prove. You must be looking forward to next year without him.
Better hope he's fit for Wembley and the play offs!
Apart from Farrel, Richards and Pee Wee you look pretty average to me especially your forwards.
Good luck next year without Sam and Pat you'll need it.
The officials continue to embarrass this great sport. Sharp has to go!'"
Brilliant, remember your teams attempt to beat us in the cup tie, Blake Green does (or maybe he cant).
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| How ironic that a fan of a team consisting of Travis Burns and Sean Gleeson is calling one of ours a cheapshot merchant. Brilliant.
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| Oh dear! You don't watch much rugby do you. We finished 9th last year. We're 6th now and look good for play offs. No improvement there. Our young players are getting better.
As for McCheapshot please a more cowardly player I haven't seen in the super league era. Elbows neck wrenches gouging he's good at them all. Your team mastered the 'cannonball' tackle. I lost count how many players knees Lima did for whilst he was here.
I don't mind Wigan and adore watching Tomkins play but band wagon jumping fans like you who don't know the game let you down. You got out of jail last night. I'm not being bitter even predicted we'd run you close if Tomkins didn't play on our forum.
He is one of the best players on the planet. Irreplaceable and you are poor when he doesn't play.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Oh dear! You don't watch much rugby do you. We finished 9th last year. We're 6th now and look good for play offs. No improvement there. Our young players are getting better.
As for McCheapshot please a more cowardly player I haven't seen in the super league era. Elbows neck wrenches gouging he's good at them all. Your team mastered the 'cannonball' tackle. I lost count how many players knees Lima did for whilst he was here.
I don't mind Wigan and adore watching Tomkins play but band wagon jumping fans like you who don't know the game let you down. You got out of jail last night. I'm not being bitter even predicted we'd run you close if Tomkins didn't play on our forum.
He is one of the best players on the planet.[u Irreplaceable and you are poor when he doesn't play.[/u'"
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Oh dear! You don't watch much rugby do you. We finished 9th last year. We're 6th now and look good for play offs. No improvement there. Our young players are getting better.
As for McCheapshot please a more cowardly player I haven't seen in the super league era. Elbows neck wrenches gouging he's good at them all. Your team mastered the 'cannonball' tackle. I lost count how many players knees Lima did for whilst he was here.
I don't mind Wigan and adore watching Tomkins play but band wagon jumping fans like you who don't know the game let you down. You got out of jail last night. I'm not being bitter even predicted we'd run you close if Tomkins didn't play on our forum.
He is one of the best players on the planet. Irreplaceable and you are poor when he doesn't play.'"
Really? Bandwagon jumpers? We hardly won anything between 98 and 2010 you clown. All these things that "Mr cheapshot" does that you list, how many has he been sited for? When has he gouged anyone?
9th to 6th, Congratulations on a fantastic season, looking good for the play offs, dont make me laugh you'll get knocked out in the first round by any half decent side. Now toddle off and celebrate getting into the play offs. Have a look at Cory Patterson by the way if your discussing cheap shots, what he did to Green in the up was one of the most cowardly things you'll ever see on a rugby pitch.
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| Strange that someone with the name "Burtons Forearm" should complain about cheapshots. Now he was the master of that art.
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| Quote ="21-12"Really? Bandwagon jumpers? We hardly won anything between 98 and 2010 you clown. All these things that "Mr cheapshot" does that you list, how many has he been sited for? When has he gouged anyone?
9th to 6th, Congratulations on a fantastic season, looking good for the play offs, dont make me laugh you'll get knocked out in the first round by any half decent side. Now toddle off back to your cr@p little ground and celebrate getting into the play offs, another nothing club like Cas that will never win anything. Have a look at Cory Patterson by the way if your discussing cheap shots, what he did to Green in the cup was one of the most cowardly things you'll ever see on a rugby pitch.'"
You really don't watch much rugby do you? Was you at the cup game? Slightly and I mean slightly late on Green caught him in the chest knocked out when his head hit the floor. Worst you've seen? You only start watching rugby this year. You must have misses the Goodway and Lima years?
Your post suggests what you are..........other Wigan fans must be proud. Your not the stereo type fan of a successful team are you.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Strange that someone with the name "Burtons Forearm" should complain about cheapshots. Now he was the master of that art.'"
There! Someone who watches the game.
Didn't come on for a row but couldn't let that idiots post go. Sorry to the rest.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"There! Someone who watches the game.
Didn't come on for a row but couldn't let that idiots post go. Sorry to the rest.
Good luck against the s in the final. Some of you deserve it.'"
What a charming person...... Thanks for the visit...
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| Anybody else think Hull KR should have been down to 12 men for deliberate foul play? I think it was Withers who deliberately tried to twist Hamshires knee the wrong way! That could easily have ended the lads career. It was a shocker!
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"You really don't watch much rugby do you? Was you at the cup game? Slightly and I mean slightly late on Green caught him in the chest knocked out when his head hit the floor. Worst you've seen? You only start watching rugby this year. You must have misses the Goodway and Lima years?
Your post suggests what you are..........other Wigan fans must be proud. Your not the stereo type fan of a successful team are you.
Just wanted a fair go last night which we never seem to get away from home.'"
Really? You didn't come on for a row? I suggest you read your posts. Slightly late? He was out for 6 weeks.
For your information iv watched Wigan since 1991, from the age of 2. All your arguements are flawed, you've made yourself look a complete tool and now your trying to convince us you only came on for a chat. Pull the other one.
For what its worth I like Hull KR and have always had a good laugh with them at Magic weekends and at craven park. Your obviously in the minority, your hatred of Wigan blinkers your opinion.
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| When I watched the recording later last night one thing struck me, the out and out bias comments from the Sky commentators Hemmings being the worst. Why is it that everything that Wigan does is brought under minute scrutiny, while others have their questionable plays seemingly brushed aside as just “read it in tomorrow’s chip paper”? Or a complete blind eye is turned. On the match I would agree that there were some questionable decisions made, but they all weren’t Wigan’s way. It seemed that KR’s intention was to slow Wigan’s play of the ball down as much as possible, and though you can’t blame them for that, they did get away with it a far too much.
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| Hull KR have consistently been the niggliest and dirtiest team that Wigan have played over the last few years. It is like they know that is the only way they can compete and always try to drag Wigan down to their level, hence the penalties they give away and sin binning. Indeed if the play the ball had been refereed better they would have been penalised far more last night. They played well, probably to the best of their ability, but to try and make out they were completely innocent and were cheated out of a win is taking the Michael.
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