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| Hes not the first to come out moaning like this.
Critisising the tackling we "got away with" is in effect criticising the match officials?
Maybe if the RFL started fining managers for comments that "bring the game into disrepute" they might keep their mouths shut and let the RFL and match officials get on with doing their jobs?
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| [url=http://www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-warriors/wane-offended-by-bulls-tackle-complaint-1-5848761Wane's not a happy bunny[/url
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| Paul Wood took exception to (I think) Logan Tomkins doing this type of thing the other week.
Either way Cummins should take it up through the correct channels if he has a problem. I'm sure Wane has learnt this after his whinge last season accusing other clubs of illegally targetting Tomkins.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"[url=http://www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-warriors/wane-offended-by-bulls-tackle-complaint-1-5848761Wane's not a happy bunny[/url'"
Why get involved? The RFL have already dismissed the case, all Wane has done there is draw more unwanted attention to our tackling technique. I'm not saying the refs would create penalties that aren't there, but if a borderline tackle of this type occurs, things like this could subconsciously influence them.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Why get involved? The RFL have already dismissed the case, all Wane has done there is draw more unwanted attention to our tackling technique. I'm not saying the refs would create penalties that aren't there, but if a borderline tackle of this type occurs, things like this could subconsciously influence them.'"
If anyone wants to "subconsciously influence" anything it's Cummins. I don't think our coach is blessed with the best media skills but I don't think Wane has done any harm here by basically saying Cummins is talking rot. Cummins comments were way out of line and if he really felt there were cases to answer he should have taken it up with the RFL not the media. In the face if that tirade by Cummins I don't think Wigan or Wane could just let it pass without comment. Not when he was accusing the club of deliberately training to tackle in a way to injure players.
I think saying Cummins will be embarrassed was actually quite a smart way to phrase it.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Paul Wood took exception to (I think) Logan Tomkins doing this type of thing the other week.
Either way Cummins should take it up through the correct channels if he has a problem. I'm sure Wane has learnt this after his whinge last season accusing other clubs of illegally targetting Tomkins.'"
Isn't that exactly what Cummins did? He launched an official complaint with the RFL, I'm pretty sure that's the most 'correct' channel there is.
As for the comments reported in the press, not ideal but the papers will always be after a story. As evidenced by Wane's recent retort.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Why get involved? The RFL have already dismissed the case, all Wane has done there is draw more unwanted attention to our tackling technique. I'm not saying the refs would create penalties that aren't there, but if a borderline tackle of this type occurs, things like this could subconsciously influence them.'"
In fairness to Wane, he knew nothing about it until told in yesterday's press conference. Sounds like it was surprise more than anything else.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"In fairness to Wane, he knew nothing about it until told in yesterday's press conference. Sounds like it was surprise more than anything else.'"
Ah fair enough I hadn't realised that
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| Agree with most of what's been said here.
Bitter whining.
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| Francis is getting a touch of the McNamara's about him where everything is everyone's else fault bar his.
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| I see this reared its ugly head again last night. It's awful to watch and only a matter of time until somebody is really hurt. The RFL need to get a grip of it.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I see this reared its ugly head again last night. It's awful to watch and only a matter of time until somebody is really hurt. The RFL need to get a grip of it.'"
Lets see who gets cited eh?
If no one will you en come on and apologise?
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I see this reared its ugly head again last night. It's awful to watch and only a matter of time until somebody is really hurt. The RFL need to get a grip of it.'"
Yes, we are a cheating bunch of barstewards and should be thrown out of the competition.. Well said that man.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Lets see who gets cited eh?
If no one will you en come on and apologise?'"
No because I feel the RFL are weak when it comes to it. It's obvious that coaches and players see how dangerous it is but the RFL don't. That's because most of them have never played the game and don't understand.
Be honest, taking all bias away, do you genuinely see nothing wrong with the technique?
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"No because I feel the RFL are weak when it comes to it. It's obvious that coaches and players see how dangerous it is but the RFL don't. That's because most of them have never played the game and don't understand.
Be honest, taking all bias away, do you genuinely see nothing wrong with the technique?'"
As per my comment on your other post, there's nothing wrong with the tackle at 17:15 on the clock. Can you highlight the others for review?
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| Quote ="goobervision"As per my comment on your other post, there's nothing wrong with the tackle at 17:15 on the clock. Can you highlight the others for review?'"
I'll be honest I haven't watched it again yet, will be doing so after work tonight.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"No because I feel the RFL are weak when it comes to it. It's obvious that coaches and players see how dangerous it is but the RFL don't. That's because most of them have never played the game and don't understand.
Be honest, taking all bias away, do you genuinely see nothing wrong with the technique?'"
So I take it you've played the game then to a high level?
And that gives you the right to be judge and jury on something you haven't by your own admission watched again?
Well done on that
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I'll be honest I haven't watched it again yet, will be doing so after work tonight.'"
I'd quit while your behind now if I were you.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"No because I feel the RFL are weak when it comes to it. It's obvious that coaches and players see how dangerous it is but the RFL don't. That's because most of them have never played the game and don't understand. '"
As both the Match Review Panel and Disciplinary Panel include ex-players we can safely put this excuse to bed.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"So I take it you've played the game then to a high level?
And that gives you the right to be judge and jury on something you haven't by your own admission watched again?
Well done on that
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Yeah I've played the game at a decent level and I understand how dangerous these challenges are. It's only a matter of time until the RFL understand too.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Yeah I've played the game at a decent level and I understand how dangerous these challenges are. It's only a matter of time until the RFL understand too.'"
Hilarious...
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| No charges arising from the game last night, just to put this one to bed - again.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"No charges arising from the game last night, just to put this one to bed - again.'"
You sure?
I thought there'd be an absolute shedful given Yellow Giraffes detailed analysis and findings?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"You sure?
I thought there'd be an absolute shedful given Yellow Giraffes detailed analysis and findings?'"
Read through my posts. At one point did I say that I think the RFL will take action on anything that happened in last night's game?
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"No charges arising from the game last night, just to put this one to bed - again.'"
It doesn't put it to bed though does it? It just means the RFL are too incompetent to deal with it. It is obviously an issue within the game, you can't deny that.
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