He actually did ok didn't lose the ball much unlike most others with the stray pass near the end lack of help from the lethargic pack and had a few good runs at the line. I have seen worse debuts for us.

Did the ex enjoy the game?

What do you mean? Btw can I not comment on a post without someone mentioning that.

There were some positive signs for sure but he's obviously very raw and a long way off which is to be expected. His natural instincts of hopping around on the spot waiting for some big, lumbering 6ft 10 Union forwards to jump on him made me chuckle. He seemed to be grasping it more by the end though and was getting in to a forward motion quicker.

He certainly gave it everything so well done him.

Well I have just got back and I ain't in the best of moods after having to turn around and go back almost to the DW because bloody slip road at the A49 was shut so I can back via Orrell. That is after having to work today so my journey as I went home to pick up my son for the game was Runcorn-Chester-Wigan-Orrell-Chester.

So you can factor that into my thoughts on Powell if you like.

He looked clueless. Now some might say he's new to the team but players like Talyor don't look clueless when they join a new team. They know how to play RL. Powell has a lot to learn and God knows where he is going to learn it because the first team isn't the right place.

Physically? He doesn't look like an RL player. His muscle definition is just not what you expect to see and he looked pretty slow and pretty ponderous to me.

That's it really, nothing more to say because that was all there was to his contribution.

Think you wanted him to fail hence your summary. I think he went ok considering everything and look forward to his next game

Should've gone through Ashton!

DaveO in negative post shocker..........

thought he did alright going forward, he looked a bit lost in the defensive line at times and at some points was leaving huge gaps between himself and the next man but eventually clicked on and moved across, over all not a bad debut seen as he was thrown in a lot sooner than anyone would have thought he would be

DaveO went to game saw what I saw and posted about it. It's what I do.

Powell was poor. Where you there and if so do you disagree?

l was there travelled a lo further than you. Pissed just as you but unlike you I watched the game to make my opinion you made yours on the way to the game. He was ok got better in defence as the game got on. Unfortunate that he had to play this week obviously needs a month at the scorpions. If you think he was poor and clueless then what did you make of Smith Green Richards Tierney and atleast another 4 I could mention who were awful and some of these have played over 100 games. Powell did ok in a poor game and was better than half the team. Errors by the players I mentioned cost us.

No I didn't. My language may reflect my journey to and from the game but if you go over to Mikes forum you can if you look see a post from me about the 19 where I said his debut would be interesting to watch. I watched it and wasn't impressed and posted my views.



Did you read what I posted at all? My comments were twofold. Basically he didn't look like he knew what he was doing and physically he doesn't look the part. The fact others had bad games is a complete straw man argument if ever there was one.

My comments were about Powell. If you want to discuss who else was rubbish, fire away but that doesn't alter one iota how Powell went.

We all read your post. Even not looking the part bit. But its obvious you are desperate for him to fail. You might not though but your coming over like that.

He bumped off several players thus his strength can't be too bad.

It isn't his first game in a new team. It's his first in a new sport and he went well. As mentioned, several established RUGBY LEAGUE players did worse.

Wouldn't expect any less from you though DaveO. Are we blaming Wane, IFL or Sam Tomkins for the defeat?

If I "might not" why post it? The idea I am desperate for anyone in a Wigan shirt to fail is quite an insulting comment. WTF would I want that? His debut tonight didn't do anything to persuade me it was a wise move to sign him but if I am proved wrong and he turns out as good as a Pongia, Smith or any other older RL prop that has done well for us I really won't care if I have been proved wrong. In fact I'd be quite pleased. Unlike a lot of people I don't care if things like that happen.

Tonight he wasn't much cop. That is my opinion. We are going to have to invest a lot of effort in him IMO and I can't see why we are. Time better spent with Crosby and Spencer etc IMO.

I didn't expect him to do any better than he did as he only joined the club 1st June. He could have done an awful lot worse.
Plenty others out there did far worse than Powell although they played Monday and looked like they couldn't put one front in front of the other.
Monday/Friday turnaround is stupid.
Hudds got beat at HKR when having to do that.
We lost tonight against a poor Cas side who were still a lot better then we were.
Any decent team out there against us would have been 20+ or more up by half time.
Mentioned on another thread that the Monday/Friday turnaround was too much for Bentham. He was good last Monday, tonight he was off the pace of a very slow game.

Oh come off it. He didn't "go well" at all. And "as mentioned" the fact the rest of the team didn't perform has got nothing to do with how [uhe[/u performed as an individual. How they performed is as I said a straw man argument.

He looked like a guy that'd never played a top flight game of Rugby League before!...

Oh wait! Well in that case he definitely got better as the game went on. Was thrown in at the deep end, goalline defence was a bit sluggish, think there's a lot of potential in him though. I have high hopes for him in time!

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I wish it was all you had to say but I'm confident it won't be. Compare that debut to Quinnell and Tuigamala's for instance and he was some distance ahead in terms of contribution and condition and they turned out OK as rugby league players.

I thought he did alright. I was expecting him to be quite slow at the ptb, but that was quite the contary, one memorable one was towards the end of the match was a run approx 10 metres away from their line and the quick ptb he managed. Unfortunately bugger all came from it. I was low down on the Billy Boston stand so cant really comment on the space between defenders as it certainly wasn't the best view for that. But overall I dont think anyone could complain about it.

Well go on then oh great one. Tell me where he went wrong. I'll give you being out of position a few times in defence as a starter for 10. I'll then counter it by saying that on a few occasions we'd have turned the ball over if it wasn't for the fact he followed the ball due to his RU background and was able to pick it up.

How anyone can possibly criticise that performance for his first game in rugby league is beyond me. How is Dave-O even a mod on here? If he's not a troll then he's definitely an embarrassment to Wigan fans.

DaveO speaks for all Wigan fans, we are just too stupid to realise he is right.

I think Dave speaks from the heart, but there are times when I wonder where that heart lies.

I increasingly get the feeling that opposing the chairman is a higher priority than supporting the club.

He did OK considering he has never played top flight RL before. One thing I noticed was that he was running the ball in then losing aggression and stopping dead once he hit the defenders and went straight to ground instead of pumping his legs. This is what he'd do in RU for the other players to join in the ruck and maul but i'm sure this can be coached out of him.