300 kids, around 600 parents, upto 1200 grandparents, plus 1000's more siblings, aunties, uncles and cousins.

They all need to start screaming and shouting and refuse to vote for any councillor that doesn't back Leigh East.

If you've got a case, you'll win hands down.

It's joke that things like this are happening. Councils really don't seem to understand how much of a benefit sport is to any area

Keith, first of all apologies for my outburst, having sat down and read both your posts in depth and looked at my particular gripes I can see that my issues pale into insignificance with regards to what's happening. Some things get said in the heat of the moment and emotions took over for that I apologise. What can we, by we I mean the community of Wigan need to do to try and stop this? Is it a case of strength in numbers, if it is then count me in. Once again apologies to anyone I may have offended, lesson learned on my part.

Takes a big person to apologise, well done hatty. And thanks for the support.

www.wigan.gov.uk/News/CouncilRes ... ghEast.htm Not much to start with, but how about some complains on the council's page? and while we are at it, how about the council members cut some of their claims, just 1% off that bill alone will solve Leigh East's problems. www.wigan.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/1A ... owance.pdf

www.wigan.gov.uk/News/CouncilRes ... ghEast.htm Not much to start with, but how about some complains on the council's page? and while we are at it, how about the council members cut some of their claims, just 1% off that bill alone will solve Leigh East's problems. www.wigan.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/1A ... owance.pdf

Quote ="cherry & white"Andy Leigh East signed a contract and it went back to the council who never signed it and filed it. see more facts here leigheast.forumup.co.uk/viewforu ... =leigheast'" Even if they didn't sign it, if it was a contract agreed by both parties and the club and Council started operating under it's terms and conditions, legally it would more than likely be enforceable. The next question is obviously what are the term and conditions in terms of the changes being pushed through by the Council. It there were options to do this later in the contract (as is often the case) there may be little the club can do apart from the obvious PR and political pressure.

Quote ="cherry & white"Andy Leigh East signed a contract and it went back to the council who never signed it and filed it. see more facts here leigheast.forumup.co.uk/viewforu ... =leigheast'" Even if they didn't sign it, if it was a contract agreed by both parties and the club and Council started operating under it's terms and conditions, legally it would more than likely be enforceable. The next question is obviously what are the term and conditions in terms of the changes being pushed through by the Council. It there were options to do this later in the contract (as is often the case) there may be little the club can do apart from the obvious PR and political pressure.

That's debatable to say the least, for a contract to be legally binding there first needs to be 'offer', 'acceptance', and 'intention to create legal relations' while it's true that this could, and regularly does, all happen without paperwork, the fact that there was a written contract which the council didn't sign is surely a strong indicator that they haven't accepted it. I only studied basic contract law though so hopefully in wrong. I'd definitely say they're better trying to exert public pressure to solve this rather than the courts if they can.

If the Council started operating a relationship with Leigh East as set out in a final contract, a half decent lawyer could prove they've therefore accepted it, even without signing it, especially given the number of years it has been happening.

It all depends on what the club signed and sent back to the Council.

But have they accepted it as per the terms of that unsigned contract, or do there actions just amount to arrangement that can be ended at any time be either party? I'm not saying that's how it should be but I can see the council's case

Like I said earlier it depends on what was signed and sent to the Council and how the thing has operated since. Although the urban myth is they do as they like, Council's can't just enter into commercial arrangements without the necessary safeguards of a contract - it would essentially be operating "Ultra Vires".

At the moment we only have Leigh East's side of the story in terms of something being signed. Even then we don't know what actually was signed, and if it allowed the Council to do what it is now.

Would not trust the present Council as far as I could throw them as you only have to look at the way they closed the Museum at Wigan Pier by running it down in order to do a deal with a building company to build apartments and went back on the promise of a civic theatre on the site. Plus the way they are now treating the disabled with the proposed closures of day centre's etc.

I would add that if you do get the Council's version, it will be the usual distortion of the truth and they will still carry out what they intend to do as the decision will have already been made.

They keep telling you that they have to make savings of £80 million but they are not making any cuts in salaries for the management or expenses claimed by Councillors.

Best of look to Leigh East and I say that as a resident of Wigan and Warriors supporter.

Seconded.

Get this posted on as many forums and places as possible, kick up a real fuss and then people will have to start listening. As someone who has worked with people who have come from broken backgrounds (not saying any of yours have by the way), sport has a huge part to play in all areas of society. Rugby League in particular can teach people discipline and even social skills lat lots of people need. Good luck to you and i will look out for your guys when you're nexxt playing in the hull area.

This sounds like a right mess.

With regards to function rooms, bar takings, pitch hire & facilities hire how does this 'proposed deal' compare to other local clubs (anyone on here have any insider knowledge)? One thing I do know that upping subs to £7, then £10 per week is a non-starter. My two lads play at Judes and subs are £3 per week each, £1 of which is used for the weekly club lottery, no way would I pay the figures mentioned.

Good luck, but it sounds like a right stitching up. Yes, the facilities are top class but there's no point if no parent wants to send their child there due to high costs and there's rival clubs within a few miles!

mr. chairman

No surprise to me where many of the elected representatives on Councils are involved as they are only in it for what they can get out of it and to make numbers up for the ruling group when it come's to a vote.

Many of the decision's by Council's are being passed against the wishes of those who elect them.

Well done mr chairman for starting the ball rolling. Lets hope Andy Burnham can come good and that Wigan council come to their senses

Wigan Council does not understand, or appreciate local sport. Clueless jobsworths, protecting themselves and too easily led by senior council officers who have their own agendas. This whole story stinks.

All RL fans should support this club's case.

I quite like Andy Burnham. Seems a pretty genuine bloke (for a politician) from what I've seen over the last twelve months relating to Hillsborough.

Well I think some of us have a pretty good idea!



Jeez, talk about childish and immature!

Maybe instead of reading just one part of this topic you should read it all. Try with my later posts!

Agree completely. I'm Blackbrook through and through and would be 100% behind any amateur club if they had something like this happening, whether from Wigan, Warrington, Leigh or anywhere. Rugby League fans should support the sport and it's grass roots. SL clubs need all amateur clubs to be successful so they have as big a pool as possible to get their players from.

Has he signed for this season or next? Fully agree the more amateur clubs the better for rugby league as a whole and more importantly the better for the young lads in the area who have something to keep them out of trouble, teach them discipline and keep them fit

Just seen on Twitter that Andy Burnham has had a meeting with the Leigh East club. Hope this can be sorted out, shocking situation really from what I've read.

To be fair to the poster I responded to (Hatty?) he/she later came back with a change of heart which I thought was a very decent thing to do.

Thanks Jinkin jimmy, I was totally wrong in what I originally said and my apology was from the heart, oh and I'm a he