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| Quote ="joanne callotte"Spot on !!'"
Hopefully Leigh fans woke up tonight and realised the value of dual contracts and partnerships with clubs like Wigan RLFC.
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| Quote ="Conroy"Did the Wigan castoffs actually sing a song about their team? All I heard was 80 minutes of the usual anti Wigan crap.'"
Yes Leigh won the Eurovision Song Contest. I know it was their Wembley but the filth ridden chanting was vile. To spend 5/10 minutes chanting anti Widnes stuff too was pathetic.
Tonight showed the difference between full time professionals and part time semi professionals. The strength difference was startling. Not one Leigh player made progress upon collision yet Wigan players made yards easily to the point even Josh Charnley was able to steamroll Leigh players as if he was Mal Meninga.
A salutory lesson tonight for Leythers. Anybody can beat up on juniors in meaningless friendlies and carp about it. Oddly tonight the likes of Littler did not want to know when Lockers and Hanson were hitting them with textbook tackles.
The main thing for Leigh was tonight provided money beyond that the quality of players at Leigh has gone backwards. McNally looked very poor and like many lacking in conditioning. Brierley showed some ability although some of the individual spark seems to have been coached out of him. Ridyard was poor and has gone backwards. Was it Duffy that came on the second half or a spectator? Wigan gave some young players valuable experience and Leigh could do a lot worse than take both Spencer AND Greenwood on dual contract. Tonight showed Leigh fans why they need to accept dual contracts and the partnership system.
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| Thought that the #8 Hopkins was a handy lad, would be very interesting to see what SW & Bitcon could do if they get their mitts on him.
I agree about Duffy, an absolute embarrasment, reminded me of the time Johnny Vegas came on the pitch that time wearing a Saints shirt.
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| Quote ="Mr Northstander"I cant believe what I am hearing on radio GMR, bloody idiots the pair of them along with Steve McCormack talking about Wigan like they are some sort of super team!
When did Wigan last do / win anything under Shaun Wayne?
Lets see what happens to Wigan when they play an equivelant team like Leed Rhinos! Last season Leeds battered Wigan in the challenge cup and the play offs and will do so again this season, as will the Wire and Saints!
Best about this is all you can hear are the Leigh fans out singing the the wigan fans!'"
Didn't bother to go and support your team then?
I also believe Leeds won by one point in the playoffs. Hardly a 'battering' that's what your boys got tonight!
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"Yes Leigh won the Eurovision Song Contest. I know it was their Wembley but the filth ridden chanting was vile. To spend 5/10 minutes chanting anti Widnes stuff too was pathetic.
Tonight showed the difference between full time professionals and part time semi professionals. The strength difference was startling. Not one Leigh player made progress upon collision yet Wigan players made yards easily to the point even Josh Charnley was able to steamroll Leigh players as if he was Mal Meninga.
A salutory lesson tonight for Leythers. Anybody can beat up on juniors in meaningless friendlies and carp about it. Oddly tonight the likes of Littler did not want to know when Lockers and Hanson were hitting them with textbook tackles.
The main thing for Leigh was tonight provided money beyond that the quality of players at Leigh has gone backwards. McNally looked very poor and like many lacking in conditioning. Brierley showed some ability although some of the individual spark seems to have been coached out of him. Ridyard was poor and has gone backwards. Was it Duffy that came on the second half or a spectator? Wigan gave some young players valuable experience and Leigh could do a lot worse than take both Spencer AND Greenwood on dual contract. Tonight showed Leigh fans why they need to accept dual contracts and the partnership system.'"
Did some Leigh lad $/ag your misses??
Did you really think the game would be a close one???
This is RL, the clubs with the cash have the best players in a FT culture, Wigan have a fantastic structure with a great conveyor belt, but maybe the don't deserve winkers like you?
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| Quote ="MattyB"Thought that the #8 Hopkins was a handy lad, would be very interesting to see what SW & Bitcon could do if they get their mitts on him.
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Hoppy's a class act and is SL bound eventually , you'd do a lot worse than snap him up as a kind of reverse part of this " partnership " .
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| Quote ="Mr Northstander"Again GMR say Wigan are best team in comp, what a joke GMR commentators are!
Who are the champions at the moment? Think its the Rhino's isnt it?
Who won the challenge cup last season, Wigan I think not!
Wait till you play the real Champions!!!!!!!!
Lets see what happens'"
You know what I love about this kind of rant/fishing trip?
If a Wigan fan brings up the 80s and 90s they are living in the past, but somehow the winners of last years GF are apparently elevated above the rest of the world with some god like super powers in the current season.
If a reference to the CC is made the previous winners are the [icurrent holders[/i of the CC not the greatest cup playing team in the world whom nobody can touch.
And finally the previous League Winners are just the winners of last years league, no super powers from being the most constant league team the previous year and I'm fine with that as it's last year.
Looking at the the current season, nobody has won anything and the only real bragging rights are around how far your team has progressed in the CC and league position.
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| Quote ="Mr Northstander"I cant believe what I am hearing on radio GMR, bloody idiots the pair of them along with Steve McCormack talking about Wigan like they are some sort of super team!
When did Wigan last do / win anything under Shaun Wayne?
Lets see what happens to Wigan when they play an equivelant team like Leed Rhinos! Last season Leeds battered Wigan in the challenge cup and the play offs and will do so again this season, as will the Wire and Saints!
Best about this is all you can hear are the Leigh fans out singing the the wigan fans!'"
Better watch out of that many Leigh fans are in one place at the same time. Must be very hard to tell them apart especially with all the inbreeding that goes on there. Hills have eyes have nothing on Leigh.
Leigh the type of place Freddie Kruger would be running away from the children.
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| My thoughts on Leigh last night.
Good sized following - would put at least half the Super League clubs to shame. Just a pity they don't do that for every match.
Very noisy. Pity most of it was foul-mouthed anti-Wigan profanity, which negates any good will it might have created. Do they not have any actual 'support Leigh' songs?
Their team was utterly woeful. Wigan took it easy on them, even earlier in the game when they were racking up the scores. There was very little vicious defence on show. It was like a training game, only less difficult than that if I'm honest. Wigan were barely trying in the second period.
Therefore - not a lot has changed in the relatives statuses of Wigan RL and Leigh RL. It's much as it always was.
At some point Leigh people, those who care about RL at least - which is plainly not many - ought to realise that defining themselves by a jealous hatred of Wigan is no way to progress, either in sport or life. But as that's now been going on for so long, I'm not holding my breath.
Leigh = joke.
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| Quote ="Mr Northstander"Again GMR say Wigan are best team in comp, what a joke GMR commentators are!
Who are the champions at the moment? Think its the Rhino's isnt it?
Who won the challenge cup last season, Wigan I think not!
Wait till you play the real Champions!!!!!!!!
Lets see what happens'"
Who finished top of the league last season?
Who’s top at the minute?
And if you want to dwell in the past, who is the most successful club in the history of the game?
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| Quote ="tiswallace"Hoppy's a class act .'"
No he's not
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| Quote ="Conroy"Did the Wigan castoffs actually sing a song about their team? All I heard was 80 minutes of the usual anti Wigan crap.'"
Rubbish.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"My thoughts on Leigh last night.
Good sized following - would put at least half the Super League clubs to shame. Just a pity they don't do that for every match.
Very noisy. Pity most of it was foul-mouthed anti-Wigan profanity, which negates any good will it might have created. Do they not have any actual 'support Leigh' songs?
Their team was utterly woeful. Wigan took it easy on them, even earlier in the game when they were racking up the scores. There was very little vicious defence on show. It was like a training game, only less difficult than that if I'm honest. Wigan were barely trying in the second period.
Therefore - not a lot has changed in the relatives statuses of Wigan RL and Leigh RL. It's much as it always was.
At some point Leigh people, those who care about RL at least - which is plainly not many - ought to realise that defining themselves by a jealous hatred of Wigan is no way to progress, either in sport or life. But as that's now been going on for so long, I'm not holding my breath.
Leigh = joke.'"
You really are blind blickered and silly to post that completely UNBIASED tripe.
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| Quote ="salfordlad"You really are blind blickered and silly to post that completely UNBIASED tripe.'"
No mate, it's all true. But if you don't want that kind of truth to hit you in the face like a brick, I suggest you aim your outrage at the Leigh pillock who started this pointless thread, the only outcome of which has been you lot getting owned for the second day on the trot.
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| Quote ="salfordlad"You really are blind blickered and silly to post that completely UNBIASED tripe.'"
Do you honestly think what Cruncher posted is untrue.
Wigan played for 15 minutes and during that time were running at 1.5 points per minute. That type of effort was achieved with several players including key one rested. A century + defeat was on the cards if Wigan cared enough. The saddest aspect about last night very few people cared despite the rhetoric. The biggest joke is the delusion that Leyther think they are rivals to Wigan. Forget Geography, anybody who said well done to you Leythers was patrionising you. Let us be honest, Leigh sucked. Hence the so called great rivalry led to fewer Wiganers attending a fixture than v anybody else incl Catalans, London and so forth.
The Leigh fans broke every rule regarding RFL fan behaviour and national sports stadia. Proud or It was akin to the land time forgot in the North Stand last night. It is years / a decade since fans behaved like the Leythers did. Other Championship teams have done far better, Barrow for example.
As long as RL fans like Leythers continue to delude themselves, our sport will never make progress.
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| Quote ="Mr Northstander"I cant believe what I am hearing on radio GMR, bloody idiots the pair of them along with Steve McCormack talking about Wigan like they are some sort of super team!
When did Wigan last do / win anything under Shaun Wayne?
Lets see what happens to Wigan when they play an equivelant team like Leed Rhinos! Last season Leeds battered Wigan in the challenge cup and the play offs and will do so again this season, as will the Wire and Saints!
Best about this is all you can hear are the Leigh fans out singing the the wigan fans!'"
Alternative idiots on commentary are available!
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"Do you honestly think what Cruncher posted is untrue.
Wigan played for 15 minutes and during that time were running at 1.5 points per minute. That type of effort was achieved with several players including key one rested. A century + defeat was on the cards if Wigan cared enough. The saddest aspect about last night very few people cared despite the rhetoric. The biggest joke is the delusion that Leyther think they are rivals to Wigan. Forget Geography, anybody who said well done to you Leythers was patrionising you. Let us be honest, Leigh sucked. Hence the so called great rivalry led to fewer Wiganers attending a fixture than v anybody else incl Catalans, London and so forth.
The Leigh fans broke every rule regarding RFL fan behaviour and national sports stadia. Proud or
It was akin to the land time forgot in the North Stand last night. It is years / a decade since fans behaved like the Leythers did. Other Championship teams have done far better, Barrow for example.
As long as RL fans like Leythers continue to delude themselves, our sport will never make progress.'"
Diddums.
You mistake Leigh's distaste of Wigan as a sporting rivalry. That's but a small part of it.
We know what the state of our team is, what the state of our club is and we turned up anyway. Sure, the chanting could have been more positive, and usually is - but it's been 8 years since we had the chance to tell your home support what we think of them and we only had 80 minutes in which to get the message across, loud and clear.
And with the 'council tax' gloating from Wiganers, it would seem we have good reason to be upset with having our tax funds going to WMBC.
Hope we get the chance to come and have another sing at the DW some time soon. Until then, good luck and have fun!
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| Quote ="Cruncher"No mate, it's all true. But if you don't want that kind of truth to hit you in the face like a brick, I suggest you aim your outrage at the Leigh pillock who started this pointless thread, the only outcome of which has been you lot getting owned for the second day on the trot.'"
Well obviously Leigh did not play anyone on Thursday but you are completely silly in your observations as is the following poster Fylde Warrior.
Did Leigh fans support really annoy you so much that you wish you had not supported your team ? Was there any violence in the Stands or in Wigan before or after the game ?
Was anyone psychologically damaged ? Why do you think even your own team came over to the Leigh end after the game to applaud the fans ?
I really do think if Wigan spent 180k on the salary cap instead of 1.8 million per season you would not be in such a smug silly mood as Fylde Warrior who constantly posts condescending tripe on the Leyther board.
Get real for Leythers this was our Cup Final. OK you won. Did anyone think they would not ?
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"Diddums.
You mistake Leigh's distaste of Wigan as a sporting rivalry. That's but a small part of it.
We know what the state of our team is, what the state of our club is and we turned up anyway. Sure, the chanting could have been more positive, and usually is - but it's been 8 years since we had the chance to tell your home support what we think of them and we only had 80 minutes in which to get the message across, loud and clear.
And with the 'council tax' gloating from Wiganers, it would seem we have good reason to be upset with having our tax funds going to WMBC.
Hope we get the chance to come and have another sing at the DW some time soon. Until then, good luck and have fun!'"
You seem to think that we, as Wiganers, care that you hate us? It doesn't bother us. It's a bunch of toothless rednecks spouting out uneducated drivel. If you put as much effort into supporting your club, as you did hating Wigan, you might get more than 1500 through the turnstiles each week.
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"
And with the 'council tax' gloating from Wiganers, it would seem we have good reason to be upset with having our tax funds going to WMBC.'"
Cough Splutter. Just remind me, how exactly was the Leigh Sports Village funded?
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| From the sale of the land at Hilton Park Leigh Easts and Leigh Harriers.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"You seem to think that we, as Wiganers, care that you hate us? It doesn't bother us. It's a bunch of toothless rednecks spouting out uneducated drivel. If you put as much effort into supporting your club, as you did hating Wigan, you might get more than 1500 through the turnstiles each week.'"
Over the last 8 years, my approximate amount of time spent actively displaying a dislike for Wigan is approx 80 minutes. In that same timespan, I've worked thousands of unpaid hours directly for my club. I'm really not worried about my sense of perspective on this issue.
It's also irrelevant to us if Wiganers don't care or don't want to hear it.
I think we might get more through the gates if weren't playing in a league that limits you to being crowned the 15th best team in England, for the foreseeable future - and all at the behest of the morally suspect RFL.
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| Quote ="Finfin"Cough Splutter. Just remind me, how exactly was the Leigh Sports Village funded?'"
Its build was funded by:
* Sale of land at Leigh East
* Sale of land on Holden Road, previously home of Leigh Harriers.
* Transfer of council owned land for the LSV site to Greenbank partnership
* Central grant money from education and sporting sources
The arrangement for transfer of land to Greenbank was arranged so that Greenbank could develop the non public aspects of the site for profit, while they paid the upfront costs of the stadium, college, sports hall, athletics venue and Leigh East ARLFC facilities, minus any grant money available.
There maybe a little more detail to it, but that's the big picture stuff.
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| Quote ="salfordlad"Well obviously Leigh did not play anyone on Thursday but you are completely silly in your observations as is the following poster Fylde Warrior.
Did Leigh fans support really annoy you so much that you wish you had not supported your team ? Was there any violence in the Stands or in Wigan before or after the game ?
Was anyone psychologically damaged ? Why do you think even your own team came over to the Leigh end after the game to applaud the fans ?
I really do think if Wigan spent 180k on the salary cap instead of 1.8 million per season you would not be in such a smug silly mood as Fylde Warrior who constantly posts condescending tripe on the Leyther board.
Get real for Leythers this was our Cup Final. OK you won. Did anyone think they would not ?'"
Nothing condescending about pointing out a few home truths. No doubt Salford Lad you were part of the gloating mob celebrating your first team beating up on our youngsters in a meaningless pre season friendly.
However, such stupidity is meaningless. Far more damaging is the small minded ignorance that holds back rugby league in Leigh and many parts of this country. Look at Leigh East and their self inflicted demise brought about by Leythers hurting Leythers. Why? self interest, short term thinking.
Leythers are either too wrapped up in their own little world to realise a bigger better RL would sell RL to more Leythers than Leigh RLFC ever could. Look at Leigh schools, Leigh junior teams despite some sterling individual efforts, development of junior RL talent still does not fully reflect a RL hotbed.
Every club in the RL has to contend with the RFL, local and national government yet the people of Leigh wallow in self pity and deluded pats on the back for singing Karoake. Leythers have the DW stewards to thank for their handling of the dark age neanderthal behaviour of the Leigh fans. Last night could have become very ugly.
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"Last night could have become very ugly.'"
Why could it? Which likely scenarios were going to result in the situation becoming 'very ugly'?
We were there to make some noise, not for a scrap. I saw not even a hint of trouble anywhere in or around the ground.
What an incredibly ridiculous thing to suggest.
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