Another one arguing that the tail should wag the dog? It's surely up to the lower teams to get better? Missing both half backs is a fair enough excuse for a poor attack, but not one for a poor defence.

Got to agree with Wiganeers here.

The 2 coaches who before the game talked it down came away with pastings.

Other teams in equally tough positions came out fighting. The results may have gone as expected but because they put the effort in, the scorelines where respectable. Salford have hardly a great team, but they had something to fight for. Even Cas clawed some tries back at Saints.

If Wigan were suddenly at full strength and Hull KR were down to the academy, only then you may expect that score.

But Wigan are shot with injuries, Wigan had a game on Friday, Wigan where travelling away, but and this is the key, Wane would not accept anything like that kind of display from his under 15's facing a full Hull KR line up. He would have least expected to hold them to as few a points as possible. Although I would not put it beyond Wane to expect them to win.

Anyway that's enough of me agreeing with Wigan fans.

Does not make you a bad person .



Just a concerned Rugby League Fan , as we all should be . A coach who talks up defeat before the game has even started has no respect for the fans (especially his own fans) but still expects them to fork out good money to pay his wages .

Regards , EW

The bonus point system in RU is an incentive to score tries (as that game typically lacks them) a team scoring IIRC 4 tries gets bonus points. In our game and the Hudds v Widnes one yesterday it is Wigan and Hudds that would have got bonus points for great attack (and would be incentivised to be as ruthless in all games).

If a bonus point system was to be implemented in SL then the one used in the Championships whereby a bonus point can only be earned by the losing side (if losing by 12 or less) would be better as that system rewards defence and encourages teams not to give up when falling 2 or 3 scores behind. The fact that this system has been in place for a few years and has not been extended to SL though suggests that a bonus point system will not be adopted in SL.

It's another sad indictment of the move to U19's. Over the years we have gone from reserves, U23, U21, U20 to U19.
There is no way that the majority of U19 players are ready for first grade rugby. However I'm sure messrs Heathrington and Wood at their weekly meet up will be congratulating themselves.

Its for the other clubs and the RFL to get their house in order.

Not Wigan's problem. We should continue to be ruthless and rack up as many points as we can when the opportunity arises. An added bonus is it makes Nigel Wood look even more daft with his recent, increasingly tiresome comments.

The whole academy rugby structure baffles me and it baffles me even more that we've agreed to it. We've got the 2 years unbeaten former U16s team sitting around doing nothing, apart from Gildart. There are lads from that team who are on pay as you play contracts so they're not earning anything and the lads that are on half decent contracts aren't getting any game time. We've got first teamers coming back from injury who can't play U19s and players who are 20 who are in limbo because they've not quite made SL level but are too old for U19s rugby.

I do hope it's restructured again for the start of next season.

The thought has crossed my mind that results like this are in part due to a lack of a proper reserve grade. I don't think we will be immune from it either if it is persisted with. It will affect the quality of players who come through as many will just leave the game or never even consider it.

At the moment our junior players who are doing so well did [unot[/u come through this ridiculous system. Who is to say they would have under it?

It is also in a way quite fortunate we have had some injuries in that it has given several players a chance but with a fully fit squad there is nowhere for Taylor and Flower (to name but two) to get a competitive game if not picked for the fist team.

The new system does IMO promote the idea of 17 fist team players and then the rest of the squad as under 19's. That is the logical make up of a squad under this system.

If we have that then it is going to result in games where a team is going to be putting boy's out against men. I know that wasn't the case v HKR as we had quite a few juniors in the side but even so that is what can happen and it is stupid. Wane has made negative comments about the system so God knows why we voted for it.

Many seasons ago in the part time era teams played 3 times over Easter our matches were always Wigan .. Friday...Widnes .. Saturday and Leigh on the Monday... and then these players were back in work on Tuesday, no complaints or moans then.

My god the young lads was outstanding for you, the young lad who started at LF, No29 and No30, can't remember their names without looking. Great future for these kids and its great to see them getting their chance, not sure you needed the signing of Scott Taylor after seeing these lads in recent weeks.

29 = Greg Burke, only just turned 20 and is supposed to be a Prop.....damn quick and good hands for a prop...30 is Spencer another so called prop and only 22...

Yep, impressive. Think it was Crosby who also stood out.

Crosby didn't play. You might be thinking of Tuson, he had another great game.

Think I got it wrong, you can understand how it all got a bit confusing lol think it was Burke and Spencer who I meant.

Just seen some footage from your game, doesn't Tuson look like he's running with a fridge on his back for his try.

Spencer made 135m from 15 carries (around that figure anyway) yesterday which is a great effort from our 9th choice prop.

Crazy the depth in that front row.

Some of those tries on the highlights were embarrassing for Hull KR, their fans deserve better than to see their team give up.

This is why the team that wins the league should get more credit for their consistent performances throughout the season and that goes for any team, not just Wigan.

Credit must go to Wigans no excuses attitude going into the season and in particular the Bank Holiday weekend because I am sick to death of listening to excuses from a number of other coaches.

When Hull K.R. brought in Sandercock they must of hoped he was going to be another Micheal Maguire, well we found out with his comments before the game that he was far from it.

Awesome weekend for the club.

NOT AS DISSAPOINTED AS THOSE FROM THE DARKSIDE OF HULL

You know I think this is where a lot of the problem lies. Both Hull clubs seem to spend most of their time competing with the other Hull club above anything else. There seems to be an ethos of "As long as we beat FC / Rovers then that's all that matters", or "as long as we finish above them in the league" (even if it's Seventh over Eighth) then it's been a decent season.

I do think that if Hull KR had played ANY other club than Hull FC on Good Friday then we would have gotten nowhere near 84 points scored. Both clubs treat the derby as a final and then at least one club usually loses poorly on the Monday. Similar to pre-SL where you would generally see the Challenge Cup Final winners lose badly in the semi finals of the Premiership a week later.

And nothing at all like the Wigan/Saints 'ethos'........

when you lost 75-0 to saints how did that result happen and im not been clever just wondering what was going on at your club at that time for that to happen

from my memory it came off the back of another HUGE loss at Leeds (72-0??), with a lot of young players out of their depth. i imagine a lot of that team didnt have much of a career.
they tried hard, but saints have always been the most dangerous team on a roll, and boy were they rolling that day.
funnily it didnt feel as bad as the cup final losses from the terraces (lovely day as well from what i remember)

Quote ="Smooth Stu"And nothing at all like the Wigan/Saints 'ethos'........ '" Every time there is a new coach at either club they always come out with the same clap-trap "As long as you beat Saints/Wigan it's been a good year". Nathan Brown said exactly this last week: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/21951838 Quote Brown will experience the rivalry as Saints' head coach for the first time. "When you walk around the town, everyone says that as long as you beat Wigan, that means it's a good year," he told BBC North West Tonight.'" Who are these fans that are coming out with this??? I would have thought that most Wigan fans (and Saints fans for that matter) don't just hinge 2-3 results against their main rivals as the barometer from the previous season. Both clubs have seen too much success in living memory for that to happen. Look at us last season - punished them away on Good Friday, pulverised them at the Etihad then finally took the foot off the gas to get beat at home in the final game of the season...but then failed miserably in the playoffs. Not many on here were crowing over those earlier results whilst the Leeds playoff post mortem was in full swing.

Quote ="Smooth Stu"And nothing at all like the Wigan/Saints 'ethos'........ '" Every time there is a new coach at either club they always come out with the same clap-trap "As long as you beat Saints/Wigan it's been a good year". Nathan Brown said exactly this last week: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/21951838 Quote Brown will experience the rivalry as Saints' head coach for the first time. "When you walk around the town, everyone says that as long as you beat Wigan, that means it's a good year," he told BBC North West Tonight.'" Who are these fans that are coming out with this??? I would have thought that most Wigan fans (and Saints fans for that matter) don't just hinge 2-3 results against their main rivals as the barometer from the previous season. Both clubs have seen too much success in living memory for that to happen. Look at us last season - punished them away on Good Friday, pulverised them at the Etihad then finally took the foot off the gas to get beat at home in the final game of the season...but then failed miserably in the playoffs. Not many on here were crowing over those earlier results whilst the Leeds playoff post mortem was in full swing.

Quote ="MattyB"Every time there is a new coach at either club they always come out with the same clap-trap "As long as you beat Saints/Wigan it's been a good year". Nathan Brown said exactly this last week: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/21951838 Who are these fans that are coming out with this??? I would have thought that most Wigan fans (and Saints fans for that matter) don't just hinge 2-3 results against their main rivals as the barometer from the previous season. Both clubs have seen too much success in living memory for that to happen. Look at us last season - punished them away on Good Friday, pulverised them at the Etihad then finally took the foot off the gas to get beat at home in the final game of the season...but then failed miserably in the playoffs. Not many on here were crowing over those earlier results whilst the Leeds playoff post mortem was in full swing.'" Completely agree, they keep mentioning it on Sky but I've never come across anyone with that mindset. I would far rather lose to Saints four times in a year and win a trophy than beat them four times and win nothing.

Quote ="MattyB"Every time there is a new coach at either club they always come out with the same clap-trap "As long as you beat Saints/Wigan it's been a good year". Nathan Brown said exactly this last week: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/21951838 Who are these fans that are coming out with this??? I would have thought that most Wigan fans (and Saints fans for that matter) don't just hinge 2-3 results against their main rivals as the barometer from the previous season. Both clubs have seen too much success in living memory for that to happen. Look at us last season - punished them away on Good Friday, pulverised them at the Etihad then finally took the foot off the gas to get beat at home in the final game of the season...but then failed miserably in the playoffs. Not many on here were crowing over those earlier results whilst the Leeds playoff post mortem was in full swing.'" Completely agree, they keep mentioning it on Sky but I've never come across anyone with that mindset. I would far rather lose to Saints four times in a year and win a trophy than beat them four times and win nothing.