I thought Finch, Micky Mac and Matty Smith let us down today and cost us 4-5 tries at least.

Forget it, draw a line and move on. The season starts now

A team full of idiots and cowards. Absolutely smashed by the forwards and played they were sharing one brain cell between them.

Wane should be embarrassed with all the big talk he has come out with this year.

One of the worst performances I have seen from any SL side. They should not be paid this week.

Warrington were bigger, stronger, faster, smarter and better. All credit to them.

A few of the much lauded Wigan academy produced golden boys should be embarrassed with themselves. They are not immune to criticism and they deserve all they will get this week from the coaches and on the streets from the fans.

I would rather we met someone else!

Yet to see what the hype is about Thornley. Not much more to add on that!

Ben Westwood smashed your pack everywhere today... I bet you lot would love a backrower as good as him.

We do. Cheers.

Sure, I'd have him. Bet there's a few from ours you'd love to have too though.

Agreed. Still think we've got a good chance in the playoffs if we can pick it up a bit against the big teams. Richards coming back can't come too soon either.

Tony Smith's rotation policy has helped Wire. They looked in better condition right from the start whereas it was obvious to spot the Wigan players that weren't fully fit.

That doesn't excuse the terrible composure at the start of another big game. The players looked clueless and their decision making was poor.

McIlorum wasn't his usual self but that doesn't surprise me. He works tirelessly in every single game and because we've got no decent replacement hooker there's barely any chance to rest him. The effort was there from him but the concentration went very early. We desperately need another hooker to take the pressure off McIlorum.

Mossop's recent form has taken a nosedive, as has Lima's. The decision to play Prescott was absolutely ludicrous! There's no way at all that he can be fully fit after the time he's spent injured yet he's thrown in against the toughest pack we could face. At least Flower was showing signs that he was reasonably fresh.

Sooner have a game like that now and still be top rather than at Old Trafford. We won't play that poor again.

Finch, Hansen & Prescott weren't fit to play IMO.

you didnt play bad we just completely outplayed you and most of the mistakes were forced both teams turned up just we were the better ones

Proof if you ever needed it that Wire fans are clueless.

The completion rates tell you otherwise...

completion rates say nothing other than the set wasn't completed it doesn't say whether the errors were forced or unforced.

however i do agree that wigan seemed off the pace and i still think warrington have more in them

Fair play to Wire they were far better on the night.

I actually thought Wigan defended well. Shaun Wane on Radio Manchester after the game said that Wigan had a 57% completion rate. What he didn't say was how many times we gave the ball away in our own 40. That was the killer.

clueless where was you watching the game most errors were forced your forwards were trying but coudnt budge our defence and youre ball players were written off but hey if you look on google im sure youll find some better excuses as to why you lost

Warrington can play alot better than that, and hopefully will with Smiths rotation policy. The score flattered Wigan a bit.

Wane needs to keep his mouth shut before games. He's just adding pressure to his players.

Just to add to that, we also only had 40% of the possession.

Question I'd ask is. Did we do well to keep the score relatively low or did Wire struggle to really take us to the cleaners. Because as we showed against Leeds earlier this year, it's quite easy to put 50 on a top side when they aren't performing. Which I'm sure the Saints and Leeds side's of the not to recent past would have done to us tonight had we performed like that against them.

Tony Smith - "I think the gauntlet was thrown down for our forwards this week with some comments that they weren't going to be bullied but my boys stood up. I thought we were right on the money today."

It was an awful performance, but it's not catastrophic.

We weren't torn apart from deep every set, we weren't completing set after set in their 20 and just not scoring points. We were poor, but we know it's not how we can play.

Fix it, move on and win our last 3 and top the table.

Correct. He needs to be smarter as a coach. People criticised Madge's media blackouts but boy did they work. He has been outsmarted yet again when it matters.

As always there's bound to be a bit of both. Wigan lacked composure and made uncharacteristic errors. Wire forced some errors and played with great intensity but there's no doubting that Wigan were woeful in the first half, just like they were against Leeds in the cup.

These Wigan players have faced tough defences and have been error free, so they are clearly capable of it. Mentally though the team just isn't there when it comes to big games.

I hope I'm wrong but we seem to be mirroring last year where we completely fell to pieces at the backend of the season, though this year we haven't got the excuse of being at Wembley. We don't look the same side that was walloping Saints at the Etihad or putting 50 in to Leeds at Headingley. This long break between now and the Salford game next Monday followed by the weekend off needs to be used correctly to put things right. If we don't see a marked improvement for the last few regular season games and the playoffs there's every chance that we'll end up with nothing and the brilliant early season form will have not meant anything.