Maybe, but shouldn't he be being 'polished' in the U20s, rather than in the first team, where he clearly isn't good enough?

I mean, he can't even catch! Carmont made a cracking break on Sunday and would normally have slung a long ball out to Richards for him to finish off. Carmont saw Gelling, and decided to stick hold instead, presumably because he couldn't trust him to catch it.

Supposing that had been in the last minutes of the Grand Final and we'd have been three points behind? Is that acceptable?

Suppose he passes it to him and he catches it and scores? Just like he's managed on 7 other occasions this season.

Come on Conroy, you're smart enough and you're at every game. How does that figure compare with the amount of chances he's bombed, whether that's dropping balls or running in touch, for instance?

Suppose he passes it to him and he catches it, then shoves it up his jumper, leans back, and howls at the moon ?

What about the 3 or 4 passes into touch by Carmont over the last 2/3 games that immediately everyone blamed Gelling for?
As for Carmont not passing and Blaming it on Gelling!



He made a poor defensive read for Wakeys opening try on Sunday but in the dozen other games he's played he's hardly put a foot wrong in defense.

The rest - I'm lost for words to reply on your "hypothese!"

Everyone bombs a try or two. Luckily he isn't costing us them at the back so I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Gelling knockers.
Don't watch boots'n' all.

Got any stats for his errors Rogues or are we ignoring those in true happy clapper tradition? If you want to start a debate on Gelling do it right.

theres going to be alot of red faces in a season or two just like with pat richards.

Edited for accuracy

www.superleague.co.uk/player/20446 21 errors and 8 missed tackles. I don't think any of his 'fans' are saying he doesn't make errors, what we're saying is that he's making them in the right areas and isn't costing us points defensively. We understand that his game needs some work, but we can see that when it has had he has the potential to be a star. Having looked at those stats, Eric isn't half as bad as I thought he was. I may need a new scapegoat. Bl00dy rubbish Gelling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

www.superleague.co.uk/player/20446 21 errors and 8 missed tackles. I don't think any of his 'fans' are saying he doesn't make errors, what we're saying is that he's making them in the right areas and isn't costing us points defensively. We understand that his game needs some work, but we can see that when it has had he has the potential to be a star. Having looked at those stats, Eric isn't half as bad as I thought he was. I may need a new scapegoat. Bl00dy rubbish Gelling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eric is doing a good solid job....

I just can't get his brain farts against Wire out my head. W@nker.

Saying that, SW was at fault for leaving him on to be wound up like that.

Thats a good point, and of course we all remember that. Now just relax....and move on...

Not really, no-one is saying get rid of him, just that he's got bags of potential but isn't ready yet.

I don't think you can compare the Pat Richard's first season in super league with Gellings, one had just won the NRL and played poorly in comparison for us the other is a promising youngster who has never played first grade rugby league before this season. I hope Gelling develops to be a world beater but the expectations i have for him this year are a lot lower than the expectations we all had for Richards in his first season.

I wasn't aware that I had made a case either for or against



My comment was aimed at Rogues' typically mischievous style. As far as Gelling goes, as an emergency winger he is solid in defense and makes hard yards too. However his errors in attack are frustrating but he's raw and has stepped into a mighty pair of boots. Is it allowed on here to be happy with parts of his game and disappointed with others? It seems some posters want a simple "for or against" stance with everything instead of realising that acknowledging a player's defects isn't always a total condemnation.

A good post. As usual Mr Jimmy.

Gelling is doing a job that he's not 'trained' to do. Just like Joel last season. He'll make errors that aren't typical of a seasoned winger but he'll also bring other things to that position like his returning the ball in. He does that harder than any current SL winger and he takes a lot out if the defences doing that. He does need to get out of the habit of putting butter on his fingers before games though.

Just joshing..



As a stop gap he has been fine, and i'm sure he has learned a lot.