It was, we were poor all round tonight.....agree Gareth Hock had a shocker, and, for me, one of the turning points in the game was Rhodri Lloyd's missed chance...looking to go under the posts for a six-pointer instead of making sure of the four?

Thought Jack Murphy stood up quite well considering it was his first team debut. Prehaps it was the kick up the backside we needed to iron out any complacency, we'll dust ourselves down, see what happens with injuries and the disciplinary, and prepare for Wakefield.

Good point, especially with Wire losing as well. The CC semi is the big one coming up, and tonight will have shown Waney that some of his plans need changing a bit. I hope.

Maybe it's just my age, but I still care about coming top of the league & was brassed off that we could have gone 5 points clear & probably tied that up.

Add to that I've developed a terrible record of only getting to go to CC semi's/GF Eliminators which we end up losing - no sooner do I buy tickets than our form starts to take a downwards turn again....

Never been superstitious, but I'm beginning to wonder if I should get some lucky heather.

zeppelin....

Yayy! A music thread!

I agree with all of that. I also can only assume Sam was injured. We have a longer turnaround after this game v Wake so Widnes was the game to rest him if rest is what it was.

I think Gelling is popular with the fans because he busts a gut and shows more heart than quite a few players we have had in the past but I can see where you are coming from with the athlete idea. I am starting to think he is destined for the pack if he has a future in the game. He's big enough.

Gelling was solid again for me apart from the obvious knock on. Quite surprised to see at times we were a little clueless in attack on some plays whereas normally we are so structured and set up well.

What struck me tonight as the most surprising was Charnley defensively. He's great, even brilliant when in attack but tonight, he was constantly out of position for me defensively, even when Goulding was still on.

I think Gelling's one of those players who'll always divide opinion. He did do some good stuff, but for me he just doesn't look a natural player - I'll be made up though if he proves me wrong.

The lack of structure for me is down to Leuluai being out & Lockers being played out of position - seemed to become hugely reliant on Finch. Without wishing to open up the Sam half/full back debate again, I think Murphy did enough tonight to warrant trying him at 1, Sam at 6 & Lockers back at 13 for the Wakefield game & semi.

Injuries are suddenly starting to pile up (who'll play centre if Goulding's out?) - so you want to get your senior/best players in the playmaking/organising positions & hope that lays a platform for the rest of the team. Easy, this coaching lark...

If Sam Powell has recovered from injury he should play against Wakefield otherwise Tomkins to 6 and Murphy staying at fullback is the best option.

We need the strongest pack of forwards on the field as that has been where most games have been won this season and weakening the forwards makes it a whole lot harder for the halves.

If Goulding is out then Hughes will probably play centre which means another forward who won't be playing in the pack. Hopefully Tuson will be fit again and we can have Hock, Farrell and O'Loughlin in the halves with Tuson on the bench.

As promising a player as Rhodri Lloyd is he's not at the level yet where he should be starting games in Super League and have to play the full 80 minutes.

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Ever noticed that when a team is struggling or have their backs up against the wall it is always Wigan that suffer a 'shock' defeat against them? Anyone ever wonder if the RFL may be having a quiet word in Wigan's ear?

Why not Gelling to C and King to the Wing?

Wigan fans complaining about slowing the PTB down and niggly tactics!!

You all loved it when it was Maguire's stock in trade!!

Let’s hope that’s just a bad hair day. I still can’t tell if it’s injuries, Tommy, or the thoughts of the CC semi, but it was a definite step backwards. I always think it’s bad to blame the ref, but he was e. We didn’t seem ever to be allowed to play the game at the pace we would have liked. Think Roby left his little yellow card in his locker, Micky Mac’s rush of blood was more of a slap than a punch, and won’t get more than a game (shouldn’t even get that for what it was) thought SoL not much of a pivot in play tonight, and Hock had a shocker. Don’t really know whether it’s squeaky-bum time or not?????





Rock 'n' Roll.

Part of the "Script" that we seem to get in RL, a scoreline that just had to happen! What happened to Wrestling on ITV & was it Ken Walton? lol

Cheer yourselves up guys, and go read the Warrington board...

Reading the match report the penalty count was actually in Wigans favour. Both the sin binning and sending off were correct. Wigan seemed to lose their shape without ST & TL.. Some shocking decisions for both sides. It wasnt a conspiracy one team simply had more passion and determination.

we still could have won against a poor bradford side.if you drop the ball in your own half as many times as wigan did you will be punished even against poor sides.

Meaningless result from a meaningless game.

I am not in the slightest bit concerned. In actual fact it's helped us as surely Wane must now realise that we need a natural halfback, and switch Lockers to his natural position.

And, the youngsters know how much harder they need to work if they expect to be succesful at this level....

Thats correct, both sides were poor. But one team had spirit. People moaning it was a conspiracy is ridiculous when you look at the fact.

Cheered myself up reading your board as well

You should start worrying about Saints and Cats buddy boy....

No sam and wigan collapse

It was Tommy L who we missed more than anyone.