Much as I love beating the stains, I yearn for some proper opposition. You cannot call yourself the best until you have beaten the second best, so I would rather play the Wire, than watch them rack up a cricket score, and us too, (had it not been for us playing with only 11)

Why have Wigan v Saints as the derby game all the time why not rotate it by playing as example
year 1 Warrington v Saints
year 2 Wigan v ST Helens
year 3 Wigan v Warrington
the one missing out play Huddersfield and
have Salford and Widnes as a derby

I do find it amusing how Warrington fans are so desperate to have a proper derby match. Historically they have always been a rather small club with no real fanbase as such. However now after a few decent seasons when they are finally begining to attract some decent crowds they now want to mix it with the big clubs. Its quite sweet really.

I think you've misunderstood the thread, its Wigan fans on here saying it's unfair that Warrington only have to play Widnes whilst Wigan have a harder fixture.

Most Warrington fans don't care, they would happily just smash Widnes every week but I'm providing a constructive suggestion that Wigan come out of their comfort zone and look to aim higher. It can only benefit your players to be exposed to higher standard of opposition.

Isn't the problem that if you have such an event, the fixtures will have to be planned a long time in advance? What with travel etc for fans of Cats and London for instance?

not hard to do, as long as you state well in advance what day London and Cats are going to play ( they both play same day just in case they are 1v2 or 3v4 etc.etc.) As long as the fans who travel the furthest know the day they are playing the opposition is irrelevant. If it is planned right you could have round 13. that decides the fixtures then for the magic event...... then you have 1/4's of the challenge cup followed by a weekend fixture of the Exiles match.

That gives everyone else apart from lon/cats 3 weeks to prepare for travel etc......which is a week more that we get for CC matches.

For the 1v2 format you play every team once that's week 13 in theory, that then is the team selection, then you play week 14 and even though the positions might change in that week it's immaterial, then a week after week 14 you have the magic weekend. That gives you a fortnight to plan which day you get off work or whatever.

You state at the beginning of the season which matches will be on which day eg Saturday 3v4, 13v14 & 5v6

Job done
fairer and more intense and a truer reflection of who should top the table.

If Wire pip you by a point for the hubcap this season that will be courtesty of the Magic Weekend. The dog shagger's five tries could have been scored by anyone who could hold onto a ball long enough as Ah Van wasn't d - sorry injured!

One year the RFL did infact make it a contest when (was it 2009?) we played Catalans. I think, based on where the teams finished in 2008, first played second, third played fourth etc. If for the next two years the "derby" format continues, then Wire have a distinct advantage.

Personally, I would abandon this RFL money spinner and have a 26 game season and leave the weekend free for the Exiles game.

I find it amusing that Pie fans will find anything they can to be patronising about when it comes to Warrington. 'Historically' Warrington have been one of the best supported clubs in the history of the RFL, unless you think history started in 1980.

An extra to your point Asgardian, which 2 teams hold the record for biggest attendance in an RL game?

Was it the London Huddersfield game 2 weeks ago?

When I started to support Wigan in 1945, The Wigan v Warrington game was always the one most eagerly contested and looked forward to. Saints were "also runs" until about 1951

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It seems to me that your forgetting you won all your trophies when you were a professional outfit and everyone else was WORKING 5 days a week and playing Rugby. We had Cullen for which i am truly grateful for keeping us up.But now we have a top coach and rebuilt a top team which can compete against top teams.hence 2 challenge cups and league leaders shield,not bad in 3 years. how long did it take you to build before you won anything.....

You dont know much about Rugby League do you?

If we pip them by a point they might want to reflect on the fact they lost to Widnes

Well obviously you don't know anything about rugby then do you,your glory days were when you was 1 of a few professional teams... Fact i have forgot more about rugby than you know at present,must be something in the pies

You've definitely forgot how to use grammar and punctuation properly, that's for sure.

I agree.

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But keep going.

Probably about as much as you given your earlier comment.

Wind your neck in.

In Rugby League Wigan and Leeds have traditionally been the big two of RL. This is generally accepted by most RL fans. Hull FC are another fairly big club and Saints are on the fringes of being one. These clubs are always considered big clubs no matter how good or bad they are and generally are the clubs the other teams want to beat

Warrington have always been a fairly average club in every way shape and form and although they may have had the odd bouts of success it certainly has never been sustained. They are much like Bradford, Wakefield, Huddersfield in that respect and I would say they are in the next tier of clubs. There are times though when they havent even been this. These kinds of clubs may have had their moments but they have been fleeting and if you want to harp on about a league win 60 years ago that is up to you. At the moment Warrington are on a periodic high due to spending big, a new stadium and a good team, much the same sort of thing as has happened in the past, with the likes of Bradford most recently. If Warrington can continue in the same vein as they have been doing the last few years then maybe things will change and they can cement themselves as being a big club. I actually think its great for Rugby League that Warrington are on the up, getting decent crowds in a decent stadium but it is a recent phenomenon and is certainly something that hasnt always happened throughout RL history.

It seems that you're offended when corrected. Your original post stated '[iHistorically they have always been a rather small club with no real fanbase as such. However now after a few decent seasons when they are finally begining to attract some decent crowds they now want to mix it with the big clubs. Its quite sweet really.'
[/i Now you've upgraded Wire to a 'fairly average club'. Your updated view also now seems to be that only Leeds and Wigan are 'big clubs'. Interesting. If you really think that '[iits great for Rugby League that Warrington are on the up'[/i why the stupid patronising comment about being '[isweet[/i'?

Fun to see that you think that Saints are only '[ion the fringes of[/i' being a big club! They've won a lot more than Wigan in the last ten years, but I guess if you want to [i'harp on about league wins 20 years ago that is up to you[/i'.

There's not a lot of point listing trophies won by all the clubs you mention ( anyone can look them up on Wikipedia ), but, given that you single out Hull FC over Wire, please note that the former have six championships, three challenge cups and one John Player/Regal trophy. Wire have three championships, seven challenge cups and four John Player/Regal trophies. I don’t see much evidence there that Hull are a ‘bigger club’ than Wire.

Looks like you're the one whose neck is stretched.

Famous, we're still waiting for you to respond to this thread from nearly two weeks ago, chief.

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Thanks in advance.

JB.

its a farce and if Wire do win the league, it should take some gloss off it at least.