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| Mmmmm all I will say is, it's a good job you don't sit near me during a game.
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| How this hasn't been locked yet is beyond me, pathetic post.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"Oh get real.
This is a sports stadium, and you get chanting. Some of it is clean, some of it isn't. [uIf you're really that offended, then don't go,[/u or buy your kids earplugs. It's down to, basically, you wanting to over-protect your kids, which really isn't everyone else's problem.
I have a seven year old daughter - she knows that dirty words exist, but most importantly, she knows not to use them.
Swearing aside, the five in a row chant is genius. There's no comeback from it.'"
What a fantastic attitude. "We're going to behave how we want and if you don't like it then YOU don't attend." Classy, real classy. How about if a person cannot behave in a way that is appropriate for a family setting then THEY don't come.
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| I understand both sides of the argument but in this case this chant isnt bad enough to warrant this outcry.
my 7 yo daughter understands there are nasty words people use and she understands she shouldnt use them. issue dealt with really.
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| There are some good clean ones, to be fair they are usually the better ones.
I like the new one for you guys after the DW fiasco
"You do as your told"
"You do as your told"
"You're Wigan rugby, You do as your told"
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"There are some good clean ones, to be fair they are usually the better ones.
I like the new one for you guys after the DW fiasco
"You do as your told"
"You do as your told"
"You're Wigan rugby, You do as your told"'"
Seeing as we fought and won our right to play at the DW, then that makes as much sense as 'your mums your dad, your dads your mum' song. Keep trying though
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| It's just banter though, i love it at games
I'm not scoring points here btw, just pointing one out that is funny YET clean.
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| Quote ="FIOS"Seeing as we fought and won our right to play at the DW, then that makes as much sense as 'your mums your dad, your dads your mum' song. Keep trying though
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Yeah, that kind of backfired on him a bit, didn't it.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"There are some good clean ones, to be fair they are usually the better ones.
I like the new one for you guys after the DW fiasco
"You do as your told"
"You do as your told"
"You're Wigan rugby, You do as your told"'"
No problem with that. I was sat next to the Saints fans and actually enjoyed the banter more than the game.
You don't need to use bad language to have banter.
As a sport we cannot afford to alienate fans. I stopped taking my kids to watch Everton due to the bad language.
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| I personally loved the saints 'Its always your year song' proper made me laugh, if you cant take a joke you're doomed
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| its a good scapegoat...
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| No problem with the Brigantes. Next.
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| If you don't like swearing you can f*ck off
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| Nice. You user name is very apt.
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| Quote ="moving on..."What i am trying to get at is effing and blinding in conversation around old people, young children or women isn't a good thing and i consciously try to refrain from it. however the occasional song at a game is just a bit of banter at the end of the day. Thats why rugby fans can drink in the pub and have a laugh and a joke with each other. If the banter and the atmosphere goes what to we have? A posh playing field with 26 blokes chasing an inflated egg.'"
You can still have banter without swearing. Your assertion that swearing is necessary to have atmosphere is wide of the mark.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"What a fantastic attitude. "We're going to behave how we want and if you don't like it then YOU don't attend." Classy, real classy. How about if a person cannot behave in a way that is appropriate for a family setting then THEY don't come.'"
Clearly that's not what I'm saying, but well done for having a go.
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| The whole idea of finding words offensive is a bit of a mystery to me. Words are nothing but an arrangement of letters. If someone finds a word offensive then I'd think them a bit daft. The context can be offensive, but a word in itself? If someone says "what the f*** are you doing?" to someone it has the exact same meaning as "what on earth are you doing?" so why would someone be annoyed at the former and not the latter?
Besides, people choose what they find offensive. If someone is offended by swearing then they've decided to be and it's their own choice. The simple solution is just stop being offended by it. You're perfectly capable of doing so.
I can understand parents not wanting their kids to be around swearing and not wanting to start swearing because it's perceived as something bad and they might think it reflects badly on their kids or themselves.
Still, I can't help but think that if everyone just decided that words on their own aren't offensive and only the context could be offensive then things would be a lot simpler.
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| Quote ="dirtbag83"If you don't like swearing you can f*ck off'"
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| Massive irony fail on here. If I was being serious would I have bothered censoring the actual swear word?
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| So explain why swearing is banned on this forum then.
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| Quote ="proper-shaped-balls"So explain why swearing is banned on this forum then.
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Because children use these forums, hold on......
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| Quote ="dirtbag83"Massive irony fail on here. If I was being serious would I have bothered censoring the actual swear word?'"
Fair enough. I can understand you wanting to introduce humour into this.
However, I think this a very serious issue and as rugby fans we either allow it and go down a similar road to football or we do not tolerate bad behaviour.
I watched an ugly scene at the end of the game yesterday with stewards getting to grips with a badly behaved Saints fan. I had a middle aged Saints fan tell me it was Wigan's fault because we should have been segregated and they should have had the North Stand. Does anyone remember Central Park - there was no need for segregation then, so what has changed?
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| Quote ="EastStandFaithful"However, I think this a very serious issue and as rugby fans we either allow it and go down a similar road to football or we do not tolerate bad behaviour.
I watched an ugly scene at the end of the game yesterday with stewards getting to grips with a badly behaved Saints fan. I had a middle aged Saints fan tell me it was Wigan's fault because we should have been segregated and they should have had the North Stand. Does anyone remember Central Park - there was no need for segregation then, so what has changed?'"
Again, I will state that abusive chanting was rife in the eighties, this isn't a new thing. Probably even worse as we had racist chanting thrown in as well...(at least we didn't get bananas thrown on the pitch yesterday, like we saw thrown at Knowsley Road years back).
And let's not get misty eyed about how trouble free games at Central Park were(and on the road). Some of the worst violence I've ever seen in my life at RL games were back in the mid-late 80's / early 90's.
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