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| Quote ="21-12"I'd much rather have Dureau and send mellor out on loan. That is, of course if mellor is prepared to wait. You always have to run the risk of losing youngsters. You must ask yourself would you rather win trophies or have a team of Wigan lads.'"
Theres no saying we can attract Dureau, if we cant id be happy go with Mellor than throw money at half hearted signing who may or may not work out. Russell looks far away from ready for first team full back so playing Sam in the halves is not an option IMO.
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| What pees me off is that people say oh Mellor not ready to play first team week in week out. Well when will he be if hes not given at least 10 games this year to play a long spell there? Playing against NW Crusaders ain't gonna do him any good neither is playing at Widnes, a side who are getting spanked every week. If we sign another half, it'll be on at least a 2 year deal which means then Mellor would need to wait that long and again he may not get a chance to show what he can do. He's 22/23 now and really needs to be playing at a good level week in week out or its unfair to the lad
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| Quote ="cherryandwhitedavid06"What pees me off is that people say oh Mellor not ready to play first team week in week out. Well when will he be if hes not given at least 10 games this year to play a long spell there? Playing against NW Crusaders ain't gonna do him any good neither is playing at Widnes, a side who are getting spanked every week. If we sign another half, it'll be on at least a 2 year deal which means then Mellor would need to wait that long and again he may not get a chance to show what he can do. He's 22/23 now and really needs to be playing at a good level week in week out or its unfair to the lad'"
22 in November, i agree he needs game time to see if hes gonna make it with us. But you cant leave Tommy out against the likes of Hull when hes fit. If an injury happens to Tommy or Mickey Mac then he might get his chance until then hes going to have to make do with time at Widnes.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"That sadly highlights how the quality of half backs in our league have dropped since Kenny's era.'"
And the majority are Aussies
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"22 in November, i agree he needs game time to see if hes gonna make it with us. But you cant leave Tommy out against the likes of Hull when hes fit. If an injury happens to Tommy or Mickey Mac then he might get his chance until then hes going to have to make do with time at Widnes.'"
I don't necessarily mean against Hull, that would be silly. In games like that we need to be at full strength. However, sometimes we gotta be realistic and weigh up when our opposition are less of a threat and then put Mellor either in at 7 Tommy on bench or either way round. Otherwise, he'll be thrust in at the deep end next year. I gotta say this year when he has made an appearance he seems to be just going through the motions and playing steady and mainly letting his halfback partner run the show. I'd like him to really take the line on next time he gets a chance.
Interesting, on BBC Radio Manchester's programme on Thursday, Shaun Wane said that he is looking to promote from within and not elsewhere for a halfback. Whether he is just saying that or its true I don't know
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| Quote ="21-12"I'd much rather have Dureau and send mellor out on loan. That is, of course if mellor is prepared to wait. You always have to run the risk of losing youngsters. You must ask yourself would you rather win trophies or have a team of Wigan lads.'"
I would rather see Mellor get some game time. But, thanks to the Widnes game the chances of that have reduced.
Get him in and see what he's like. With the Play offs setup like they are, it's OK to lose a game or two and test out the new blood, hopefully without the hysterics from the fans.
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| Dureau for me but not sure he would leave the climate in the south of France for Wigan. I like Dureau as he would add a bit of flair which is what we lack at times. Ie Warrington when we battered them but couldn't break them down.
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| Quote ="goobervision"I would rather see Mellor get some game time. But, thanks to the Widnes game the chances of that have reduced.
Get him in and see what he's like. With the Play offs setup like they are, it's OK to lose a game or two and test out the new blood, hopefully without the hysterics from the fans.'"
We are having to blood in youngsters but we have lost loads of experienced players over the past couple of seasons and will be losing more at the end of this year. I think we at least need an experienced half to help blood Mellor through. He's done well in the games he's played in this year, though leading us round the park and taking Leuluai's place is a big ask.
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| Quote ="SydSyd"Dureau for me but not sure he would leave the climate in the south of France for Wigan. I like Dureau as he would add a bit of flair which is what we lack at times. Ie Warrington when we battered them but couldn't break them down.'"
People keep going on about him leaving the climate but you gotta think about it as a professional. We're not just some small club wanting him, we're a massive club. However nice the weather is over there, I still think it would be very hard to turn down a club of our stature and a team thats winning things also
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| Jarrod Sammut also off contract for what thats worth?
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| I'd take a sneaky punt on Sammut, could be a superb player with a top team surrounding him
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| Quote ="NorthumbriaBull"Jarrod Sammut also off contract for what thats worth?'"
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| Quote ="NorthumbriaBull"Jarrod Sammut also off contract for what thats worth?'"
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"I'd take a sneaky punt on Sammut, could be a superb player with a top team surrounding him'"
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"I'd take a sneaky punt on Sammut, could be a superb player with a top team surrounding him'"
Sammut and Ah Van in, get rid of Hock and McIlorum. You really do want us to succeed don't you
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| If I was Joe Mellor and they signed Jarrud Sammut I'd quit the game haha
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| Quote ="cherryandwhitedavid06"People keep going on about him leaving the climate but you gotta think about it as a professional. We're not just some small club wanting him, we're a massive club. However nice the weather is over there, I still think it would be very hard to turn down a club of our stature and a team thats winning things also'"
I would agree if Catalans We're the same team of years ago but they are now very competitive and with a genuine shout of winning things. I agree nowhere as big as Wigan but it is likely to come down to money at the end of the day. We need to offer more that what Catalan will pay.
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| I'd literally be devastated if we signed Sammut. He's a lesser version of Dennis Moran and is exactly the sort of player UK clubs should be steering clear of i.e second raters.
Sign Brough, Dureau, Soward etc and I have no problem with Mellor and Powell biding their time for a shot but sign Sammut and they may as well walk out. Those 2 lads will get chances even if we sign a quality half but sign a no hoper like Sammut to play infront of them and that'd be a total kick in the teeth for them.
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| Quote ="SydSyd"I would agree if Catalans We're the same team of years ago but they are now very competitive and with a genuine shout of winning things. I agree nowhere as big as Wigan but it is likely to come down to money at the end of the day. We need to offer more that what Catalan will pay.'"
I understand they're better but for me still Wigan is a much bigger lure to a professional rugby player. If we matched or upped his money slightly he should wanna come to be honest. He's a young bloke who I don't think has children so that won't affect things
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| The ideal for me is to keep Finch and then recruit from within maybe with the option of moving Sam back to 6 if the others need more time. We have to develop a team that is based around a settled half back pairing. During Wigan's success of the 80's, 90's we had the Edwards/Gregory era. Saints has success built around Long. Bradford had the Paul brothers then Leeds had Mcguire and Burrows. If we have to go with another non-local lad then I wouldn't object to Dureau given that he is young and could be with the club for a few years. I am not keen on another two year quick fix from Australia no matter how good they are.
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| Get Finchy to stay, first and foremost. To paraphrase Stevo, he's been controlling things out there for us all season and really is key to making us tick in attack. Signing him for at least another year really is vital. Once that's sorted, which it hopefully will be soon, then we can look at who his half-back partner will be. Personally I would love to get Scott Dureau
Speaking of poaching from Catalans, Daryl Millard to replace Carmont anyone? That is assuming Bilko's One More year campaign fails
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| Mellor isnt good enough, he hasnt looked good enough in any spell at Widnes, and certainly hasnt looked good enough for Wigan.
Harsh, but he needs to be moved on, not every youngster we produce is going to be good enough for us, Mellor is an example of that.
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| Quote ="AJ"Mellor isnt good enough, he hasnt looked good enough in any spell at Widnes, and certainly hasnt looked good enough for Wigan.
Harsh, but he needs to be moved on, not every youngster we produce is going to be good enough for us, Mellor is an example of that.'"
Completely unfair IMO. I can count on my fingers the number of games for us and Widnes in the first team
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| Quote ="AJ"Mellor isnt good enough, he hasnt looked good enough in any spell at Widnes, and certainly hasnt looked good enough for Wigan.
Harsh, but he needs to be moved on, not every youngster we produce is going to be good enough for us, Mellor is an example of that.'"
We havn't seen enough of him in the first team at Wigan.
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