Commenting on his "value for money" is too far where talking about a man who has a family to support not a stock market investment.

Nowt delicate about me Andy, my avatar shows my feminine side...

Well I'm really going to upset the outrage junkies by saying that overall I think he's been a crapola signing.

Hindsight is always 20/20...

The view is based on actual performance overall. Any other suggestions for how we view how a player has performed if it's not on actual performance? Better tell Bilko his MoM awards are just hindsight.



I was very happy when we signed him, but he's not delivered save those half a dozen games.

To be fair he hasn't delivered because he's had a long term injury - and he started his career at wigan carrying an injury. When he was fully fit he was almost unstoppable at times from fb. Somebody compared him to ferguson and I think that is pretty accurate.

You don't get to see many players with that type of ability it's a real shame that injury prevented him showing more of it.

We have been extremely fortunate to have someone like sam to replace him.

It does show how fragile a proff sportsmans career can be though - don't begrudge him a penny of his salary.

As you say unfortunately the post in the Wakey game in 2010 stopped us seeing if he could replicate that form he showed in 5 or 6 games. However, he's played 55 times so far for us and given he's denying the rumours may play again.

From his twitter this morning '@mossy_80 well peeps big news sorry to mentioned just announced to my team mates and staff at training that I'm retiring from rugby league'

Gutted for him, he was world class at times.

So now he is retiring?

Awful news - i thought once he got his fitness back he'd be back in contention, gutted his career had to end at Wigan. All the best for the future Amos.

wanted so much for him to get another chance and another injury free spell, such a shame and makign an announcement like this must surely be a heart wrencher for the man.

gutted. he can hold his head up high in my opinion. all the best for the future Amos

Any chance that this will be his last season and not with immediate effect? Plenty of optimism surrounding the numbr of forwards Wigan have but the backline could be ravaged by a couple of injuries.

At the risk of not sounding too senstive, does this free up salary cap space mid-season?

If so, I wonder if that's relevant to anything?

Before I'm accused of being a mercenary, I also feel sorry for Amos - he didn't come to Wigan to play in junior teams and early in 2010 he showed glimpses of the great player he once was, but injury is an unfortunate reality of RL and it can happen to any player at any time. The Wigan club, however, will go on - games need to be won, squads must be built and losses replaced.

So my question still stands - does anyone know whether this will free up cap space mid-season or will Amo's contract and all the costs built into it be defined as continuing to the end of 2012?

If it's done properly and he's retiring because of injury, we should get his salary for the season.

I hope we use it to get a prop forward. We could really do with one.

I don't use twitter so have no idea whether people can change their profile name (or whatever they call it on twitter) but the two accounts mentioned on here by Bilko as having denied it and dave 1612 as having confirmed it have two different names @Mossy_bra and @mossy_80. Either could be a fake account. I'll wait for an official announcement before I start wondering how we will spend his cap space.

The tweet was sent from @Mossy_bra it just mentioned @mossy_80 in it.

His twitter account is the Mossy_bra one and both announcements mentioned are on there. A few hours apart, I might add so maybe he wanted to tell his team mates before the world got hold of it.

Always sad to see a player retire due to injury.

Its true , He announced it this morning in training. In what was quite an emotional speech.

Ok. As I say I don't use twitter so only got to see them as written on here. Shame that the injury got the better of him in the end. Could have been so different for him at wigan had he not managed to get to the line for that fateful try.

Stu Fielden's tweeted it too, and it's not something he'd make up/joke about. Deffo Stu's real account too.

No props, no pots.

Sad to hear, wish him all the best. A case of what might've been if he'd stayed fit.

maybe we could use the money to entice patrick ah van? (sarcastic tone)