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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"That's a full pack missing.
Fielden, Lauaki, Mossop,
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When did Lauaki play hooker!?
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| Quote ="21-12"Saints by 18+'"
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| Massive game needed from Tuson if he steps in, im a fan of Tuson's and think he's vastly underrated. His work ethic and the angles he runs are very similar to Lockers, if we are to do this we need his greatest game in a Wigan shirt. Hock needs to keep his head and lead the pack like he has never done before.
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| Quote ="21-12"Massive game needed from Tuson if he steps in, im a fan of Tuson's and think he's vastly underrated. His work ethic and the angles he runs are very similar to Lockers, if we are to do this we need his greatest game in a Wigan shirt. Hock needs to keep his head and lead the pack like he has never done before.'"
He's always given a good account against us, from what I remember (Tuson).
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| I refuse to rule us out on the basis of what happened in 03 alone. This Saints side isn't a patch on that one and we're probably a better team then at that point.
Maguire built a culture of one mans injury being another mans opportunity and that's what tomorrow will throw up and what Wane must keep going. The pressure has certainly been lifted via these injuries as the majority now only hold a faint hope and will be happy as long as the players give it everything.
No way are we out of this game. It's disrespectful to the lads that will go out there to say we are.
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| Quote ="JLM23"When did Lauaki play hooker!?'"
he hasnt put them in any particular order and he means all them players in respect to us having all that Beef on the sidelines.
Tomorrow is gonna be a busy day for Dudson and Hansen i feel...
Can we do without our legendary Captain? i dont think so
-2 is a great price for Saints
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| Quote ="21-12"Massive game needed from Tuson if he steps in, im a fan of Tuson's and think he's vastly underrated. His work ethic and the angles he runs are very similar to Lockers, if we are to do this we need his greatest game in a Wigan shirt. Hock needs to keep his head and lead the pack like he has never done before.'"
I disagree. Falls off too many one on ones for my liking and has not got enough attacking awareness. Fingers crossed he can prove me wrong tomorrow
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| Quote ="Captain13"he hasnt put them in any particular order and he means all them players in respect to us having all that Beef on the sidelines.
Tomorrow is gonna be a busy day for Dudson and Hansen i feel...
Can we do without our legendary Captain? i dont think so
-2 is a great price for Saints'"
Things are bad if we've had to resort to that. He looked terribly unfit in pre season and can't see how that will have improved having not played any first team rugby at this level. I really fear for the worst with him tomorrow.
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| Just read Wane saying he had to pull Hock out of training this week because he's that fired up he thought he was going to cause more injuries to other players! He's missed 11 derbys on the trot so no wonder he's pumped.
I've no doubts we can do this. Hopefully Gaz will have a day where everything sticks and if so he'll scatter them.
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| Quote ="21-12"Massive game needed from Tuson if he steps in, im a fan of Tuson's and think he's vastly underrated. His work ethic and the angles he runs are very similar to Lockers, if we are to do this we need his greatest game in a Wigan shirt. Hock needs to keep his head and lead the pack like he has never done before.'"
I disagree about Tuson's work ethic being very similar to Lockers, I'm not saying he's lazy by any means but I would like to see more involvement from him, very few tackles and carries in a game. Hopefully he will really step up and fill that gap though. Prescott, Lima, McIlorum, Hansen and Hock are the guys to look to here, they all need to lead from the front and pull Dudson, Spencer, Tuson and Hughes along with them.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Just read Wane saying he had to pull Hock out of training this week because he's that fired up he thought he was going to cause more injuries to other players! He's missed 11 derbys on the trot so no wonder he's pumped.
I've no doubts we can do this. Hopefully Gaz will have a day where everything sticks and if so he'll scatter them.'"
I read this too and I wasn't surprised at all Hock is such an aggressive player, we need him to perform tomorrow without any of this aggression spilling over into acts of violence.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I disagree about Tuson's work ethic being very similar to Lockers, .'"
Then I suggest you look up his stats from when he has played, especially 2010 before his injury
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Just read Wane saying he had to pull Hock out of training this week because he's that fired up he thought he was going to cause more injuries to other players! He's missed 11 derbys on the trot so no wonder he's pumped.
I've no doubts we can do this. Hopefully Gaz will have a day where everything sticks and if so he'll scatter them.'"
will be putting a fiver on Gaz Hock getting sent off then!
I would imagine Saints forwards will get in his face early on to wind him up, and watch the penalties roll in.
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| Disappointing to lose our most influential player, but my God, I wouldn't want to be in the trenches with some on here. At the first sign of trouble they raise the white flag. Man up!
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| I dont think he will be missed. If you watch the Warrington game again, he did nowt ! he should have been dropped to the bench if he was fit this week.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Disappointing to lose our most influential player, but my God, I wouldn't want to be in the trenches with some on here. At the first sign of trouble they raise the white flag. Man up!'"
Jukesays & WLA in Agreement Shocker!
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Have you not worked out Dikki's methodology yet?
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| Quote ="TheSurgeon"I dont think he will be missed. If you watch the Warrington game again, he did nowt ! he should have been dropped to the bench if he was fit this week.'"
Have you posted this on the wrong thread?
I bet he did 30+ tackles and drove the ball in as much if not more than anyone else! Carrying an injury for the last half hour.
He may not have had the greatest game but to say he "Did nowt!" is ridiculous!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"
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Have you not worked out Dikki's methodology yet?
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Jesus christ, I have predicted a Wigan loss because we are missing our Captain, our best prop forward, arguebly this seasons best second row and Lauaki. And we are playing the form team in the league away from home. Its not rocket science is it to see that we have it all to do. What would you prefer me to say, Wigan by 30? I think you'll find that I started a topic last week about my concerns for this game, its actually the first game I have predicted a Wigan Loss all season. So enlighten me....what is "my methodology"?
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| Quote ="TheSurgeon"I dont think he will be missed. If you watch the Warrington game again, he did nowt ! he should have been dropped to the bench if he was fit this week.'"
Words fail me.
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| Quote ="21-12"Words fail me.'"
You clearly didnt see the words "if you watch" did you. Watch it again, then come back and comment on the player wearing the loose forward shirt......... NOTHING in attack, NOTHING in support play, NO leadership when things wern't going our way, NO breaks, NO flair, NO inspiration ....... just tackling. This is the man who is wearing Ellery Hanley's and Andy Farrells shirt for god's sake.
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| Quote ="TheSurgeon"You clearly didnt see the words "if you watch" did you. Watch it again, then come back and comment on the player wearing the loose forward shirt......... NOTHING in attack, NOTHING in support play, NO leadership when things wern't going our way, NO breaks, NO flair, NO inspiration ....... just tackling. This is the man who is wearing Ellery Hanley's and Andy Farrells shirt for god's sake.'"
Then there in lies the problem, he should not be wearing their shirts, he should get his own.
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| Quote ="21-12"Jesus christ, I have predicted a Wigan loss because we are missing our Captain, our best prop forward, arguebly this seasons best second row '"
Saints are missing their captain, best centre and best prop this season. I really don't understand the pessimism, it's going to be a cracking and probably close game.
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| Same problems as us, who are also missing a full pack.
Harrison Monaghan Morley
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| Quote ="TheSurgeon"You clearly didnt see the words "if you watch" did you. Watch it again, then come back and comment on the player wearing the loose forward shirt......... NOTHING in attack, NOTHING in support play, NO leadership when things wern't going our way, NO breaks, NO flair, NO inspiration ....... just tackling. This is the man who is wearing Ellery Hanley's and Andy Farrells shirt for god's sake.'"
He made the 3rd most metres in attack among the forwards in that game, behind Lima and Farrell. He was also the top tackler. I also think he was the one who took the line on before passing to Tomkins which created the space for him to make his break.
It's not bad for a player who was struggling with injury. So far this year O'Loughlin is one of only 3 players to average more than 90 metres each game, the others being Lima and Prescott.
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