oops. Didn't know, just relied on Conroy to have his facts right, so blame him. I was hoping he was right though because in general the refs, Alibert included, are right most of the time and except when I'm doing it, are often unfairly criticised.

its nursery he needs, reff's get told to hold the tackle number using there fingers, its really embarrasing to loose count then

They should have used McManus, then any major foul-ups could be written off as 'accountancy errors'.

Why? I never normally do

Was it London scored one like that against us a few years back? Went to the screen part way through the set, and got the count wrong when it came back as "no try". They scored on the 7th. We still won though, so in the end it didn't matter as much.

Your fact though, was better than the real fact though

Interesting to think that, had the correct decisions been given in both this and our game against Widnes, we'd be 3 points clear of Wire going into this game.

The problem with the referees is they've never seemingly been held accountable and if that happens standards will always slip.

Take Child as a perfect example. How many times has he been criticised by players, coaches and tv pundits?

Is he held accountable and dropped? No they usually fine the coach or player instead.