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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Personally i love it when players and coaches say we want to win everything, i hate the wet response of taking every game as it comes blah blah boring.
Atkins said it when he joined Wire, everyone panned him for it and i thought, well in lad, show some spirit, passion and commitment.
People who say this may very well not win all 3 but surely that should always be their goal, so what's the harm in vocalising it?'"
Ignoring the jibe with the Bronco's badge....Agree with all this. It'd be different if he was saying 'we'll win all 3' but he's not saying that. It's about instilling a winning mindset - if you're one of the top teams then you should go out with the intention & pressure of wanting to win every game.
Much rather have this than BN's approach of thinking it was OK to lose a shedload of games at the start of the season & then catch up. It leads to a weak mentality when you start to accept losing. And OK, Leeds managed it last year, but that won't happen every season - and I doubt very much that they went out with that intent at the start of the year.
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| Quote ="JohnP"Ignoring the jibe with the Bronco's badge....Agree with all this. It'd be different if he was saying 'we'll win all 3' but he's not saying that. It's about instilling a winning mindset - if you're one of the top teams then you should go out with the intention & pressure of wanting to win every game.
Much rather have this than BN's approach of thinking it was OK to lose a shedload of games at the start of the season & then catch up. It leads to a weak mentality when you start to accept losing. And OK, Leeds managed it last year, but that won't happen every season - and I doubt very much that they went out with that intent at the start of the year.'"
I also think last year with Leeds, McDermott in instilled a 'Us vs Them' backs against the wall mentality with his team, after they were slated in the press for so long. This went along way to raise the team's spirits and believe they could go on and win, and let's face it - they had the players to do so.
We should be aiming to win everything every year - why be in the competition if you're not in it to win it? Defeats the object. I'd rather have the GF than the CC this year, but if we could do both it would be amazing.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"I also think last year with Leeds, McDermott in instilled a 'Us vs Them' backs against the wall mentality with his team, after they were slated in the press for so long. This went along way to raise the team's spirits and believe they could go on and win, and let's face it - they had the players to do so.
We should be aiming to win everything every year - why be in the competition if you're not in it to win it? Defeats the object. I'd rather have the GF than the CC this year, but if we could do both it would be amazing.'"
Very hard to do both since the cup final date was moved.
Wire and ourselves have all seen promising seasons slip away after Wembley wins.
If you get to all the way to the final it's like you've already played three huge playoff games already.
It takes it all out of you.
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| The fall away after the cup final is a mental issue. It is for everyone.
It's time someone proved so and go over it.
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"The fall away after the cup final is a mental issue. It is for everyone.
It's time someone proved so and go over it.'"
Its gotta be physical as well.
We played Wire, Saints and Leeds in knockout footy well before the playoffs. It must take it out of the players.
Someone will get an easy cup run one year and win both but no one will do It with a run like we had.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed" [size=200=#BF0000?[/size'"
23 years of history v 138 years? If you had used St George you may have had an argument.
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"The fall away after the cup final is a mental issue. It is for everyone.
It's time someone proved so and go over it.'"
Saints already have 2006
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| Quote ="steve"Saints already have 2006
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The play-offs for the teams finishing first and second have changed considerably since 2006. It's much more difficult now for them, wrongly in my opinion.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"Its gotta be physical as well.
We played Wire, Saints and Leeds in knockout footy well before the playoffs. It must take it out of the players.
Someone will get an easy cup run one year and win both but no one will do It with a run like we had.'"
I 100% agree with this
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| Quote ="MR FRISK"will not accept anything other than all 3 trophies'"
This season there is only one team who are good enough to truly say they are going for all 3 trophies.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"This season there is only one team who are good enough to truly say they are going for all 3 trophies.'"
I presume you've gone fishin'...... ......but if not, which club is that, and why?
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| When Hanley was in charge at saints for his too brief spell at management he refused to talk about anything other than the next game, which appears to be totally the opposite approach to wane. Am not saying wane is wrong, only history will prove that. But rugby players are sinple souls, and it seems to me that Hanley was right to focus their minds on the immediate issue, which is the next game. Hanley took it a stage further with every player being given a file that he had produced about their game, with areas for them to work on. I personally think Hanley was a real loss to the game, he was the best player that I have ever seen, and I reckon he could have gone on to be a great coach. Pity no board was brave enough to put up with his slightly erratic personality.
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| If you listen to interviews with Wigan players after the GF victory in 2012, you will see a trend appearing of them saying it was their single aim.
The club had that goal & did everything possible to achieve such.
It clearly wasn't a 'game by game' scenario. Boy did it work!
Not sayIng that it's gonna be possible to do so with 3 trophies but 2010 is proof we can have a long-term goal and it be fully achieved.
I'm behind Wane and love the idea that he want to win everything; every tackle, every contest, every game, every round, every week, every trophy.
That should be the Wigan Way
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"When Hanley was in charge at saints for his too brief spell at management he refused to talk about anything other than the next game, which appears to be totally the opposite approach to wane. Am not saying wane is wrong, only history will prove that. But rugby players are sinple souls, and it seems to me that Hanley was right to focus their minds on the immediate issue, which is the next game. =#FF0000Hanley took it a stage further with every player being given a file that he had produced about their game, with areas for them to work on. I personally think Hanley was a real loss to the game, he was the best player that I have ever seen, and I reckon he could have gone on to be a great coach. Pity no board was brave enough to put up with his slightly erratic personality.'"
Wane did that when he was in charge of the U18's and U20's. When the now gym was the clubhouse at Orrell you would see all the young players pre-match with their notes (filofax) in discussions with Wane.
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| Why are we confusing Shaun Wane's actual training policy with a quick quote given to a newspaper?
I very much doubt that any coach of a top SL side would say anything other than he wants to win everything if asked what his hopes for the season are. He's hardly going to respond: "We'll take it on a game-by-game basis, and see."
I doubt we can draw any conclusions about Waney's training methods from that.
Plus, Hanley didn't invent the 'personal notes for players' approach. That was going on at Wigan under Graham Lowe and John Monie.
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| Id be more disapointed if Wane come out and said 'I only want to win 1 thing'
Shouldnt we want our coach to be saying he wants to win everything were involved in? Or are we becoming a Warrington style club and being happy with a single cup a season now?
The Wigan way tells me we aim to win any competition we are involved with.
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| how do people on here find a way to moan about our coach wanting to win every trophy ??
I dont care who you support in what sport you should want to win every game and every available trophy
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| Fair play to him - he has a squad that could realistically win the lot and I'd expect Tony Smith, Royce Simmons and Brian McDermott to be taking a similar view.
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| Views changed?
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| Not with me!!
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Fair play to him - he has a squad that could realistically win the lot and I'd expect Tony Smith, =#800000Royce Simmons and Brian McDermott to be taking a similar view.'"
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"If you listen to interviews with Wigan players after the GF victory in 2012, you will see a trend appearing of them saying it was their single aim. '"
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| Quote ="MattyB"icon_biggrin.gif'"
Posted January 30th mate
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| Quote ="Gary High"Posted January 30th mate'"
Yes I know. It's the blind faith in Simmonds that made me chuckle.
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