Hock in the reserves? what have you been smoking?

when lauaki first signed for hull he was aggresive and a good impact player, only when it was the hull derby in 2010 and silverwood picked him out saying "im watching you" after being targetted with cheap shots from newton and other kr players and being foolisht to retaliate he seemed to lose all hunger and aggression and he became lazy, uninterested and a plodder, agar didn't know how to use him, (or the rest of the squad tbh)

I remember watching the first game of last season when Hull beat Saints at their place in the fog, Sean Long's first game for them if I re-call; and he came on and looked fantastic.

Every other time I've watched him he hasn't played anywhere near as well.

I am very underwhelmed by this signing and hopes Mr L has something good up his sleeve with regards to a centre and hooker/half back.

Lee

It looks OK but listing them like you have highlights for me how we are significantly weaker than last season.

Losing Hoffman, Tomkins and Coley as pack options leaves us lacking in depth once again. The same for the halves and hooker now that Deacon's gone - we're in trouble if Leuluai or Finch get injured.

Bottom line is we needed to have some established quality lined up to replace the departures. Having faith in academy players is great but if Lenagan and Wane don't believe we'll be taking a step backwards next year on the back these changes in personnel, they'll turn out to be mistaken in my opinion.

Actually he's not as ill disciplined as I thought www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011

Actually he's not as ill disciplined as I thought www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011

Interesting point:

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Actually he's not as ill disciplined as I thought www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011'" He must save his most ill-disciplined performances for the TV game you, I and everyone else watches.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Actually he's not as ill disciplined as I thought www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011'" He must save his most ill-disciplined performances for the TV game you, I and everyone else watches.

Would be pretty difficult to get a 27-year-old to agree to a deal balanced so much in the club's favour. It is not like a Tim Smith situation where there is an overriding issue of bad professionalism. He seems to have underperformed at Hull, but as has been said there are any number of reasons why this might have been, substandard fitness and technical coaching being one of them.

Since he's been back his attack has been good but he's also looked unfit and a liability in defence. He may well get back to his best but I wouldn't assume it until I've seen pre season indications of it. Let's not get too carried away with a hat trick against Wakefield, it takes a long time to get over two years out of the game, then walking back into a very different team. Lauaki may well start the season as the better option on the bench.

Spot on for me. I'm not averse to backing our Head Coach and signing him, but a three-year deal with an option for a fourth for a player by the clubs own admission needs work seems ludicrous.

His salary will not be much, but a one year deal would have been the much wiser move. And as you say, if Lauaki wasn't happy with that - don't sign him.

Wasnt best pleased about this rumour when I first heard it, but on reflection he has potential, will want to impress here and I have no doubt that if he underperforms Wane will not hesitate to bring someone from the under 20s in. He will be in competition with Liam Farrell, Harrison Hansen, Gareth Hock, Chris Tuson and Jack Hughes all will be chomping at the bit to nail down a first team spot.

I dont think that you are in much of a position to judge are you?

Then don't sign him.
If Lauaki had refused a one year deal to join one of the premier clubs in world rugby then he is absolutely mad.

And if he demanded a three year deal and Wigan caved then we are also - mad.

Last season I felt we were short sighted in not giving debuts to Mellor, Powell or Logan. A steep learning curve is on the way for one of them this season as surely one or more of them will have to be called upon. I just hope the limited national league and reserve experience they have had has prepared them for some super league game time.

I'm also wondering if we simply haven't signed a centre or a half. Otherwise why not announce the signing at the same time as this one? Surely we aren't planning on playing Roberts at 1, Goulding at 3 and Sam at 6 all season when Roberts has been in such terrible form and Goulding has only really excelled on the wing?

Talk about selective reading. On just about every other statistic Coley is better than Lauaki and by some distance. Coley averaged more meters, more carries and is better in just about every stat bar tackle busts. In particular Coley made 521 tackles in 22 games v 310 in 26 for Lauaki. Coley also made 87 marker tackles compared to 42 for Lauaki.

No wonder the Hull fans don't rate his defence.

Everyone thinkes hes crap so he has got nothing to lose for a kick off. Theres no way he can be worse than O Carroll over the last few years because he has hardly been fit so at worst its a slight improvement actually having another option in the pack.

FWIW im not inspired by this signing but i can see why weve got him. He aint gonna be on mega money either.

Not sure about this one tbh. Theres no doubt he has got potential but I think it will be difficult for wane to bring it out. Whenever i've watched him in the past i always thought he was a bit of a dirty player tbh and not someone i would have imagined us signing. I really hope he proves me wrong but im a bit dissapointed that we've let go of such a hard working young player in o'carroll to bring this guy in.

Can't say I'm excited by it but he's a Wigan player now so I'll back him.

Hopefully a good pre season under bitcon will have us all eating our words next year and this lad will become a favourite. He did have a very good start to his Hull career so hopefully he's found some hunger.

Very disappointing signing if I'm honest, lacks ambition and trust in our youth set up hopefully I'm proved wrong.

Huge step down from Hoffman.... very surprised at the 3 year contract as well.

Risky signing.

to be fair, theres no-one currently available or has been signed already by any club in SL who could match Hoffman

Lauaki - Poor side, poor coach

Coley - Top 2 side, Micheal Maguire.

Bitcon will work wonders on this guy, worry not.

Surprised that you have signed someone who seems to play short stints as an impact player.... Hoffman was the total opposite..... I thought Hoffman's first team place would go to Joel Tomkins..... But that doesn't appear to be the case now.

I imagine he was probably quite cheap though..... so maybe a risk worth taking.

We needed more options in the pack, particularly attacking options. We were left with Hansen, Farrell, Hock and Tuson to choose from in the back row and there's only Hock who offers any physicality in attack. Hansen, Farrell and Tuson make for some pretty lightweight back row options so some extra size was a must and a bit more aggression shouldn't go amiss either.
The biggest worry is his laziness in defence. Madge wouldn't have made a signing like this that's for sure, obviously Wane thinks he can improve Lauaki's defence because it needs to improve massively.

Hoffman was a freakish signing and would of never left the storm if that salary cap trouble hadnt of happened.So it would be really hard to sign any 1 anywhere nr Hoffmans standards ,