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| I think we should let the rugby Gods to decide.
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| There's only one way to find out... FIGHT!!!
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| leeds simples! dont get any yarkshire fans in billinge
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| Been sat here trying to figure out who i'd like to win. Can't think of an answer. Think its because im not bothered! Ha.
Wouldn't begrudge either of them though, Leeds have put in a mammoth effort to get to both finals despite the regular season that they had, not had a week off either.
But Saints have had more personnel troubles than the rest of the league and you can't help but admire the way their young side has performed this year. Plus even if they won they'll be nothing without Graham!
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| Quote ="Uhtred"Saints. Plenty of friends who are Saints fans helps but the main reason being that they're a Lancastrian club. I'd never cheer a Y**kshire team in a final, even in a WCC game.'"
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| It's got to be Leeds then we can claim they are not legitimate champions as they didn't play-off against us.
Saints played off against us and won whereas if Leeds win it they will have done so without playing off against the side finishing second. You can't claim to be champions having avoided a team with a far better league record than you in the play offs.
Now had we a top five system in place rather than the idiotic one we have now, they would have had to beat us to get there assuming we lost to Saints in our first game (as we did). Then I'd probably support Saints had they done so.
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| Quote ="DaveO"It's got to be Leeds then we can claim they are not legitimate champions as they didn't play-off against us.
Saints played off against us and won whereas if Leeds win it they will have done so without playing off against the side finishing second. You can't claim to be champions having avoided a team with a far better league record than you in the play offs.
Now had we a top five system in place rather than the idiotic one we have now, they would have had to beat us to get there assuming we lost to Saints in our first game (as we did). Then I'd probably support Saints had they done so.'"
Errr......They beat Wire!
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| Quote ="Cronus"Can't stand Leeds. From stroppy sly dirty McGuire to miserable moaning Sinfield to flat-track coward Bailey to big fat bitter Schofield, hate the lot of 'em. And their fans. They think Leeds is the centre of the world and love to masturbate their own self-importance. It's almost like they think Leeds is the gleaming capital of a small oil-rich country called Yarkshire instead of the dreary toilet it actually is.'"
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Quote ="Cronus"I'm not really that fussed.'"
Sure you arent, sure you aren't
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| Quote ="Neil_A"Errr......They beat Wire!'"
So what? They did not beat us.
Under a top five system they would have had to beat both us and Wire at some point. The competition is supposed to be a play off not a knock out and if you don't play-off against a side then you can't really claim it's representative. Saints didn't beat Wire either which just shows what a rubbish format the current system is compared to the top five system.
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| A few years ago with Longy, Cunningham, Price etc it would have been anyone but Saints. But this current lot have a certain admirable quality about them, with one or two exceptions.
Although I'm not a McDermott fan, it would be good to have a British coach pick up the prize, although I still intensely dislike some of the Leeds players.
So, toss coin, Saints. What is the point of rivalry if your rivals always lose in finals?
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| Quote ="MjM"But...
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My dislike of Leeds doesn't particularly override the Saints rivalry. Therefore I'm mostly neutral and without much of a care.
Not hard to understand.
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| I said Leeds after Friday night but the more the weekend has progressed the less bothered I am. I just want a good spectacle now.
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| Leeds and i think they will.
Danny Buderas was class against Warrington and i think he will run the show again on Saturday.
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| Leeds.
Just so Ginger Jimmy Graham can have one last public blubbing session before he heads off dawn sarf.
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| Can't stand either club to be honest! Leeds uz of what maguire the cheat did and saints cuz it's saints.
I've always said I support 2 teams in RL. Wigan and whoever is playing Saints. Therefore I'm a Leeds fan on sat but hope maguire has a stinker!
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| What would I like to see - the GF abandoned due to fighting and the SL championship declared vacant for 2011, with both 17s, non-playing squad members present at the game and all coaching and backroom staff banned sine die for their part in the melee.
That's the only result that would make me happy.
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| This thread is hilarious! Leeds can't be considered champions as they haven't faced Wigan in the play-offs? Sorry pal, but if Wigan had managed a victory at some point then we could have at least had the opportunity to play Wigan. To reach both finals deserves a little credit, however painful it might be!
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| I want Leeds to win because it would be hilarious to see Saints choke a FIFTH successive Grand Final.
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| [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=28&t=319394I think it might be time to bring out "Old Faithful" and see if there's life in the old dog yet, having worked three years on the trot.[/url
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| Quote ="Dougy"I dislike both, and as a Wiganer, brought up to want Saints to lose every game they play, but Leeds being Champions from 5th is laughable and brings a bit of embarassment to the sport. Adding all that up my conclusion is I still can't decide.'"
You couldn't be more wrong. The fact that teams from 3rd and 5th have reached the grand final proves that the play off system works. It could probably do with tweeking a bit though.
Just hope it's a great game.
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| Quote ="Deano G"What would I like to see - the GF abandoned due to fighting and the SL championship declared vacant for 2011, with both 17s, non-playing squad members present at the game and all coaching and backroom staff banned sine die for their part in the melee.
That's the only result that would make me happy.
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| To be fair neither but I would rather see Leeds loose
Simply to wipe the smug face off alot of the Leeds players. Just give us a decent game is all I ask.
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| As the weeks progressing I'm more and more leaning towards a St Helens victory. As much as they go on about being successful in the SL era, which to be fair they have been. In recent years that's not been the case, they haven't won the title after all since 2006. Leeds on the other hand have had a lot of success in recent times.
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| Not bothered at all as long as its a good final.
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| Quote ="AJC"Take it you don't like Mondays?
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I was having a dull day until the image rights story broke and it really lightened the mood.
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