1. Knows the club and the players inside out

2. Has had 2 years learning to win under Madge

3. Has the total respect of the players

4. Has been assistant coach at Wigan, which is much bigger than head coach at Crusaders

5. Has a winning record at all levels.

6. Knows the importance of the club's "ethos".

7. Has learned what not to do, from his years under Noble & Millward

Would you like McDermott? He's spent this year learning what not to do........!!

I'd still support them if Thatcher, Major or the Queen was the coach. Out of interest how do you know what qualifications or attitude they have??

To be perfectly honest, and in no way am I saying that I would prefer Harris to Wane, but being the head coach of a superleague side as well as a national side makes you more qualified than being an assistant for 2 years. IMO.

So what's McNamara's excuse then???

They have spent years 'loathing' wigan,
Not been succesful in coaching.
They dont 'fit in'
Both of them can't talk properley
Both of them (esp. scully) are scruffy gets.
They are just after a payday. If scully was any good, dont you think his club. stains would have him in some capacity?

Hey I never said they'd be a good coach. Just someone said they don't have the right qualifications. If you described someone (with no names) for the assistants job by saying:

- only 35 years old
- already coached an international side into the 4 nations
- already been an assistant coach at a SL club that got into the playoffs
- been a head coach at a super league club

That is a better resume than Shaun Wane's, and I personally think on paper it'd be a bit of a coup to get Harris as an assistant at Wigan.

Well put!!!!!


Harris us far more articulate than Wane.

Madge was an assistant...

For 5 years



Madge was also a big risk, thankfully it's just paid of big time.

As long as Waney gets the job I don't care who is his number 2. The guy bleeds Wigan and with Wane in charge the culture at the club will not change.

I don't think he was quite so much of a risk as some people suggest. Certainly his success in the Super League will not have come as a surprise to many people in Australia.

I remember a quote once being attributed to Harris when he was a player at Warrington that he would "never play for Wigan". But he was a kid at the time, and he was being interviewed in the Warrington press. Otherwise, I can find no evidence to support this assertion. Plus, given the due diligence Ian Lenagan likes to perform, I'd be surprised if anyone who loathed Wigan would get past the first interview.



This is pretty undeniable,



This is nothing more than your opinion (and it sounds suspiciously like sheer, uninformed prejudice).



The irony of this one takes some beating. This bit's got to be a wind-up, hasn't it?



Again, I've seen no evidence of this - quite the opposite where Sculthorpe is concerned, but even if it were true, I'm sure it's not beyond IL to tell them put a jacket and tie on when they're being interviewed on telly.



And I bet that's the last thing on your mind when you're looking for a new job.



Maybe he didn't apply for a Saints job. Let's face it, they're not the force they were. Either way, this is no proof anything.

Thus far you haven't given a single valid reason why either of these appointments would be the disaster you seem to feel. Both are pretty new coaches, so it's difficult to see how 'having no coaching success' can be held against them yet.

Has Scully really been unsuccesful as a coach? Granted he has had a pants year with Crusaders, but I reckon a fair amount of that has come from the constant unrest behind the scenes from a generally badly run club. But ok, I'll give you this year as a failure.

As Wales' national coach, he's been a success, he's got them into the 4 nations and had them winning games against teams who on paper, are probably stronger.

As assistant to Noble they got into the playoffs.

Madge took the interviews with IL.

Harris blow sculthorpe out the water with his rugby knowledge..and really impressed both MM and IL

Wane head coach
Harris assistant

Maguire has done the hard work changing the culture at Wigan. The fitness and professionalism of the players is a credit to the club and fans; add to that the enthusiasm of the younger players and a real team ethic with everyone giving their all for the cause.

The club have the blue print they just need Wane and a.n other to carry on the good work. I have no problem with that being Harris or Sculthorpe

I don't actually think Harris has done such a bad job this year at Crusaders, i'm not sure any coach could have saved that sinking ship this year.

Makes you wonder about Nobles decision to quit when he did. He took them to the play offs so he did seem to have something to work with.

Worthy of a bookmark.

But if you see whats happened there - lord knows what's been going on with players wages and such this year, its remarkable they have pulled off any wins and been at least semi-competitive this year.

Noble knew the writing was on the wall; fair play to Harris for handling the situation and as you say producing some wins, the hammering of the Giants being a stand out

Not saying that Wane et al aren't capable, but a top head coach also has to be able to come up with new systems and adapt them to produce a plan B when plan A isn't working. No good just saying "we just need to carry on what we're doing."

Wane deserves his shot, unless we could get a big name from Aus, which is unlikely. Promoting Wane should mean the professionalism, attitude and fitness levels remain high, it's just whether the new coaching team can be as technically astute as Madge that's the worry.