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| Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"told BBC manc that Ganson was wrong to disallow the McGuire try last Friday! What a twonk, clear no try, even Brian Mac said in the interview that he did drop it before he kicked it. Never known a ref to hate Wigan as much as he did, no wonder the refs are always such a big talk after Wigan games with him in charge.'"
ha ha I seen this on twitter!!! what a clown?!
Now say out Richards try was forward and thats another matter cos it was so far forward he almost touched down in Leigh
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| Quote ="Enicomb"'"
You see another typical pie! Where have I complained about the call? I haven't. Gloating just makes you look more daft.
You are top of the league and you bloody deserve it.
I love the game and can see how awesome you have been. More so in the last month.
But only idiots would think they know better than the bloke who has the job of telling the refs what to do.
Love him or hate him what he's says is the law. That's his job.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"A job title alone, does not make you an expert on a matter.
Also, please dont change your opinion of someone's credibility just to suit your agenda.......
[urlhttp://viewtopic.php?f=2&t=451850&p=15085182&hilit=cummings#p15085182[/url
[urlhttp://viewtopic.php?f=2&t=446927&p=14968206&hilit=cummings#p14968206[/url'"
Not me pal show me where I have changed my opinion?
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| These sheep have a really unhealthy obsession with wigan this year
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Not me pal show me where I have changed my opinion?'"
To be honest, as soon as i had posted it i realised my mistake.
I could say that all you leeds lot look and sound the same when you spam this board , but that would have been a feeble excuse.
My humble apologies
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| Anywhere else on the field and that would be given as a knock on. If it was a prop forward who dropped the ball onto the ground then kicked it it would be classed as a knock on.
To say that it wasn't a knock on would be to create massive inconsistency with similar decisions previously. Since inconsistency is something that Cummins has made an essential part of refereeing it means that he must be correct.
I just hope that refs and video refs avoid using common sense in the future in order to prevent such consistencies happening again.
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| Fair do's pal!
I just think it's laughable some fans think they know better than the bloke who decides how the rules should be interpreted
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Fair do's pal!
I just think it's laughable some fans think they know better than the bloke who decides how the rules should be interpreted'"
Are you new to RL ? Your writing about Cummins here !
He were never much good as a ref .
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Fair do's pal!
I just think it's laughable some fans think they know better than the bloke who decides how the rules should be interpreted'"
Cummins doesnt do that though. Cummins will agree the rules and introduce any changes but as with anything in its upto the individual referee to decide how he interprets the rule some are more strict than others, some let it flow and some will just make their own rules alltogeth
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Fair do's pal!
I just think it's laughable some fans think they know better than the bloke who decides how the rules should be interpreted'"
I'm sure you agree with every decision Steve McNamara makes too. Just because the RFL put someone in charge it doesn't mean they're automatically fool-proof
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| No matter what Cummings says McGuire lost control of the ball, it went forward and hit the ground. It's a knock on.
If he was correct, how long do you leave it before you call the knock on, does the ball have to bounce above knee height? McGuire only tried to kick the ball because he lost control.
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"Think someone is a little upset at the defeat'"
I will take a defeat on the chin any day of the week. Recent displays against Catalans and a superior Warrington side for example. No one would have put money on us getting anything out of this game and all you want it a display and what's we got. Is getting consistant calls from officials game to game too much to ask. Sometimes however hard you try, there are decisions made out of your control that put you on your knees (and I know it's swings and round abouts). The Ferres one I can live with (even though your coach thought it was a try), but the Carmount one................ sorry no way.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Bitter much?
If you mattered to us we would of smashed you. We had one objective last night and that was get 2 points. About half the team was limping at one point but we did what we had to.
If you want somebody to blame try Rangi Chase.'"
My heart bleeds for you pal............. if we mattered to us??? Don't make me laugh. You go out to win every game in the same way and under estimating a team is not very professional is it? Don't forget you were lucking to come away with anything from our place, so jog along and all the very best
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"[uAnywhere else on the [/u[ufield and that would be given as a knock on. If it was a prop forward who dropped the ball onto the ground then kicked it it would be classed as a knock on.[/u
To say that it wasn't a knock on would be to create massive inconsistency with similar decisions previously. Since inconsistency is something that Cummins has made an essential part of refereeing it means that he must be correct.
I just hope that refs and video refs avoid using common sense in the future in order to prevent such consistencies happening again.
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Of course it would, and, if you were attempting a 'drop goal', wouldn't you be aiming at the goalposts ?
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| Quote ="jungle man"What a load of tosh. At least be humble in victory and give credit to a young/massively under strength Cas team. Are you telling me that you were superior to us with the amount of players we had missing?. Unless it's Leeds, Wigan, Saints and Warrington, no one else has injury problems. The simple fact of the matter is that diabolical decision to allow Carmonts try changed the game. That incident is obstruction 10 times out of 10, but for some reason Bentham thought bowling over a player in the defensive line is OK. In regards to Ferres, the ball looked lodged between the players legs after they started to get back up. After those 2 decisions, I was ready for TRY or PENTALTY TRY to appear on the screen after JL lost the ball under the sticks!!!. At this moment in time, there is only one winner of Super League 2011 and it's not you lot that's for sure!!!'"
Gosh! Is it that time already? Time for a pint methinks, make mine a Yarkshire bitter, I just love to see it in full flo
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| Quote ="Abacus"Gosh! Is it that time already? Time for a pint methinks, make mine a Yarkshire bitter, I just love to see it in full flo'"
Your round then!
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| No doubt he will also come out and state the Ferres non try should have been given benefit of the doubt.
I would like to know why only five Cas players were allowed to pack down just before Ferres got the ball please Stuart.???
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I know where the 2 points went! I know it was disallowed. That's why they have a review to improve their performance.
No where have I said we was robbed or owt daft like that! And I won't be
But for pies to say they =#FF0000no better than the bloke who has the final say on how the rules should be interpreted sums up how arrogant and deluded some of you are. No suprise to anyone.'"
Its "know" not "no" .... now put your crayons down and get back in your classroom son
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Fair do's pal!
I just think it's laughable some fans think they know better than the bloke who decides how the rules should be interpreted'"
Look, it's our fault.
We forgot the knock-on rule should be changed to suit Leeds.
Presumably Cummins got on the phone to GMR after Gary got on the phone to him.
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| Quote ="jungle man"My heart bleeds for you pal............. if we mattered to us??? Don't make me laugh. You go out to win every game in the same way and under estimating a team is not very professional is it? Don't forget you were lucking to come away with anything from our place, so jog along and all the very best
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Weve done enough this season to be top of the league at this point. We are also the current champions. We dont have to play our best every game to win especially against teams like Castleford. Luck doesnt come into it, we are top of the league for a reason. Weve been the best team so far.
You can moan all you want about dodgy decisions last night but without them when we played at your place you wouldnt of had a sniff of a draw so its all swings and roundabouts.
We dont go out to win in the same way every game at all, we play to the schedule and try to manage our resources to get the best results over a full season. You are Castleford underestimating the proffessionalism of Wigan?
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Weve done enough this season to be top of the league at this point. We are also the current champions. We dont have to play our best every game to win especially against teams like Castleford. Luck doesnt come into it, we are top of the league for a reason. Weve been the best team so far.
You can moan all you want about dodgy decisions last night but without them when we played at your place you wouldnt of had a sniff of a draw so its all swings and roundabouts.
We dont go out to win in the same way every game at all, we play to the schedule and try to manage our resources to get the best results over a full season. You are Castleford underestimating the proffessionalism of Wigan?
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This just gets better. God where do you all come from?? You are saying that the decisions went against you when we played at ours?????? Jeeesss. Where have I said anything about Wigan not deserving to be top of the league? League tables do not lie. We had this thrown at us when we were top, as we hadn't "played" anybody. You can only beat what's in front of you. The point I was making is Maguire did not say to the players "just go out and give 75% that will be enough to beat these", as it doesn't work that way. If you think it does, then that's another debate at another time. You probably didn't play to your best and if you manage your resources, you would have played a team mixed with reserves, but credit has to go to us in the way we stopped you from doing the things you do best. The "try" was scored when the score was 16-16 so was a big moment in the scheme of things.
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| Quote ="jungle man"Your round then!'"
hardly a surprise coming from a Yarkshire mon
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| Quote ="jungle man"This just gets better. God where do you all come from?? You are saying that the decisions went against you when we played at ours?????? Jeeesss. Where have I said anything about Wigan not deserving to be top of the league? League tables do not lie. We had this thrown at us when we were top, as we hadn't "played" anybody. You can only beat what's in front of you. The point I was making is Maguire did not say to the players "just go out and give 75% that will be enough to beat these", as it doesn't work that way. If you think it does, then that's another debate at another time. You probably didn't play to your best and if you manage your resources, you would have played a team mixed with reserves, but credit has to go to us in the way we stopped you from doing the things you do best. The "try" was scored when the score was 16-16 so was a big moment in the scheme of things.'"
Did you see the Leigh v Batley game tonight? Leigh were awarded a similar try by the video ref. Its called dummy running.
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| Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"Did you see the Leigh v Batley game tonight? Leigh were awarded a similar try by the video ref. Its called dummy running.'"
Yep. An art that has been spoiled by terrible decision making.
I fully expected it to be disallowed, but for all the wrong reasons.
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| Quote ="jungle man"What a load of tosh. At least be humble in victory and give credit to a young/massively under strength Cas team. Are you telling me that you were superior to us with the amount of players we had missing?. Unless it's Leeds, Wigan, Saints and Warrington, no one else has injury problems. The simple fact of the matter is that diabolical decision to allow Carmonts try changed the game. That incident is obstruction 10 times out of 10, but for some reason Bentham thought bowling over a player in the defensive line is OK. In regards to Ferres, the ball looked lodged between the players legs after they started to get back up. After those 2 decisions, I was ready for TRY or PENTALTY TRY to appear on the screen after JL lost the ball under the sticks!!!. At this moment in time, there is only one winner of Super League 2011 and it's not you lot that's for sure!!!'"
Maybe you could take your own council and be gracious in defeat. Or does only apply to everyone BUT you?
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