He's the best player in our team by a distance.

As for the best player in the league? Well I wouldn't swap him for anyone put it that way but theres 2 or 3 other players that would push him close.

Let me see, me versus the Wigan goggle wearing brigade, what's the point of me turning this into a 20 page thread on me arguing a valid case when nothing i say, prove or such like will change your mind.

ps he isn't booed purely based on his great skill, Bailey is also booed and he's got none.

Im being objective. Seriously who is better? The only player in your team who gets close is m.monaghan.

p.s sam is being booed through pure jealousy, no-one in the league has produced a player anywhere near his quality in years.....

To say he's not the best player at Wigan is crazy though mate and why would we be wearing Wigan goggles saying he is? We're obviously going to be honest and unbiased about all of our own players although granted it's more difficult when looking at the leagues best players as a whole.

As it stands if I had to name superleagues 5 best players in no particular order i'd go-

Roby
Graham
Richards
S Tomkins
M Monaghan

theres other guys just below that bunch who are quality aswell like Briers, Chase, Brough, Morley etc but they'd be my picks at the minute.

I'm not comparing him to a Wire player, Briers is a completely different player to Sam and [ucurrently [/ua better stand off.

It's not jealously, it's his s--thouse tactics, no one boo's Pat Richards, in fact i'd go as far as to say almost every fan respects him, a lot.

It's his 'winning' of penalties and whinging and his brother doesn't help running in every time Sam gets a bit of rough treatment.

It's the same way Briers is booed for 'reffing' the game and winding up the opo fans.

Sam tomkins - best player at wigan but clearly not the best player in super league

We didn't say he's great because he's booed, we said he's booed because he's great.

Graham's done. He'll milk NRL for a season at most if he can get away with it.

How many did he "win" tonight?

I think we only had two penaltys all game.

And Ryan Bailey's reason Mr Semantics?

I'm complelled to hear who is better than sam currently in Super League?

No one knows about his past exploits i forgot, he went intothis game with a clean slate, again weak argument, you knew where i was coming from but are trying to be clever.

That would be like one player being a s--thouse with every team bar one, and that one team saying "nah he's not a s--thouse, even though we see it every week".

You brought him up, not me. You seem to think if two players are booed it must be for the same reason, and if one of them isn't skillful the other one isn't either.

and he's the post that put you on my ignore list because you obviously haven't got a clue about discussing in an unbiased way, the merits of a player that doesn't play for your team, the guy is class.

Mathers

He is class, but the Australian referee's will not put up with his confrontations and the opposition will only use it to wind him up. The NRL will be a whole new trade for him to learn, people moan about Tomkins petulance yet Graham's moaning goes unmentioned?

Who cares about the best player in super league? We have some quality players including the current MOS and YPOTY.

We are top of the league for now so I don't care if we have a team of ex NL1 players.

Graham is a class act, but yet again was bitching to Alibert tonight. He did the same at the Grand Final. One day he's going to get his marching orders. There's a very fine line between passion and abuse.

I'd love to see the post (seeing as people are coming for me for not agreeing) where i said he wasn't a great player?

Wigan are usually behind in the penalty count, so unless Sam is "winning" say 50% of them I would say your argument is poo.

In fact, not many penalties go Wigan's way when Sam is the one being tackled, unless they try to take his head off.
Does that still count as "winning"?

By the way, the Meli tackle on Sam near the end of the Exiles game should have been a penalty. Do we get a credit for that?

Because if you don't rate a player any more, it's because they don't play for you?? What has Graham done this year? Bugger all from what I've seen. He was great, but the fact that he's failed to have much of an impact in this injury-hit Saints team suggests to me that he's done. Anyway, stick me on ignore, at the very least it will stop you wandering in to every thread I post on with some banal attempt at grabbing my attention.

Were asking..seriously.... who is a better talent than sam?

Yeah you're right he's an angel, he's never done anything wrong and could walk in to QSLD NSW and Aus national side no problem and people boo him because they're 'jealous'.

Night Wigan fans

Hahahaha put your dummy back in for god sake!

I think you replied to the wrong post there.