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| No matter what we do marketing and seat prices wise - we wont get more that 1k Hudds fans over here on a friday night.
Considering the improvement in their team and the high quality stadium they play at their current home average is barely 8k, in fact the highest attendance they've pulled all season is only 9.5k. They're not a well supported club - so how are we expecting to attract big numbers for an away game?
Simple - We're aiming to pull in the extra numbers from our own area - the Radlinski article on the club web site is pushing the 'bring your, friends, work mates, neighbours' angle.
It starting to annoy me that we are the only club really achieving in the attendances area. There's only Leeds who'll come anywhere near our average this season and they'll by 20-30% below ours.
Its about time other clubs stepped up to the mark.
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| Quote ="MattyB"What is also interesting is what effect the 'big one' events could be having on corresponding matches the year after (when all attendees pay full price):
Leeds (H)
2008 - 14,911
2009 - 20,295 (The Big One)
2010 - 17,883
2011 - ?
Wire (H)
2008 - 15,537
2009 - 13,452
2010 - 22,701 (The Big One)
2011 - 21,056
Obviously the reality that Wigan (and Wire) are much better teams than in 2008 will show some improvement in attendances, but it can't be ignored that The Big One events seem to help the same fixture a year later.
Will be interesting to see how next years Wigan v Hudds attendance pans out, somewhere in the middle (c17k) would be tremendous.'"
Regardless of that, this game just doesn't have the same feel as the other two. Those attendances are due to the quality of our team and also the warrington team.
Leeds has always been a big game and Warrington is a local derby. Much different to playing Hudds.
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| Quote ="Giz"No matter what we do marketing and seat prices wise - we wont get more that 1k Hudds fans over here on a friday night.
Considering the improvement in their team and the high quality stadium they play at their current home average is barely 8k, in fact the highest attendance they've pulled all season is only 9.5k. They're not a well supported club - so how are we expecting to attract big numbers for an away game?
Simple - We're aiming to pull in the extra numbers from our own area - the Radlinski article on the club web site is pushing the 'bring your, friends, work mates, neighbours' angle.
It starting to annoy me that we are the only club really achieving in the attendances area. There's only Leeds who'll come anywhere near our average this season and they'll by 20-30% below ours.
Its about time other clubs stepped up to the mark.'"
Hudds will have a core support of a few thousand, these are the type of people that Wigan are offering 1,500 ten pound tickets to and are hoping will travel.
It's already been stated on here that they took a similar amount to Wrexham at full price.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Regardless of that, this game just doesn't have the same feel as the other two. Those attendances are due to the quality of our team and also the warrington team.
Leeds has always been a big game and Warrington is a local derby. Much different to playing Hudds.'"
It probably doesn't make financial sense to promote Leeds as the 'Big One' anymore (as the club have to subsidise entry fees), we had nearly 18,000 full paying customers last season. It certainly doesn't make sense to offer it to Wire, just like we wouldn't with Stains.
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| Quote ="Giz"
=#FF0000Its about time other clubs stepped up to the mark.'"
Said this for a good while.... Wigan are one of the few clubs who could do f*ck all with marketing and still pull an average of 11-12k and never hear a peep from the RFL. We would get the fans in just by being Wigan.... and yet there are clubs in super league who's survival depends on their crowds and there are clubs who should be doing a lot better in this area and yet they do nothing!
Leeds should be having a big one at Elland Road against Leeds.
Hull should be doing similar.
Smaller clubs like Cas and Wakey could be doing a lot more.
Quins should be getting as many school kids in as possible...
None of this happens, if it did then the profile of our game would be up a notch.
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| Quote ="MattyB"It probably doesn't make financial sense to promote Leeds as the 'Big One' anymore (as the club have to subsidise entry fees), we had nearly 18,000 full paying customers last season. It certainly doesn't make sense to offer it to Wire, just like we wouldn't with Stains.'"
I agree, see the last part of my post. I see what the club is trying to do but it just isn't quite a big one for me
It's a shame we don't have more big clubs in RL.
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| bit harsh on the giants support
2000 average was - 3392
2011 average so far - 7892
not many clubs can boast improvements like that.
and if you went into the 90's you would be looking probably a thousand!
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Leeds should be having a big one at Elland Road against Leeds.
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Now that, I would pay to see.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Now that, I would pay to see.
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I meant against Bradford
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| leeds game will market itself - there away turn out at the first big one wasnt that impressive considering every ticket was a tenner at the first one (iirc), huddersfield game probably wont be on sky therefore encouraging more people to come and watch (hopefully)
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"I meant against Bradford
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Leeds vs us at Elland road would pull in a cracking crowd imo, especially if they managed do it in the off season of football and have it on a Saturday.
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| Home ends will be almost sold out imo. We will pass 18,000 easily but the 20,000 barrier will probably depend on the Hudds fans unless they send back the cheap tickets they dont sell
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| i would hope that we will sell the 1500 and then some more if our club also market the ar$e of this game.
our away support has been pretty poor over the years but is improving,slowly but it's improving
2000 at leeds
1500 at wrexham
500 at perpignan
recently is testament to this.
however if the game is on sky then it will no doubt affect our numbers as our fans dont seem to
A:like attending sky games
B:like attending friday night games
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Said this for a good while.... Wigan are one of the few clubs who could do f*ck all with marketing and still pull an average of 11-12k and never hear a peep from the RFL. We would get the fans in just by being Wigan.... and yet there are clubs in super league who's survival depends on their crowds and there are clubs who should be doing a lot better in this area and yet they do nothing!
Leeds should be having a big one at Elland Road against Leeds.
Hull should be doing similar.
Smaller clubs like Cas and Wakey could be doing a lot more.
Quins should be getting as many school kids in as possible...
None of this happens, if it did then the profile of our game would be up a notch.'"
Anybody would think you are doing a Sports Marketing degree or something.
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| Quote ="Bilko"I don't expect it but a crowd of 15,361 v Quins next Friday was see us have a bigger total attendance than second highest average Leeds having played a game less!'"
Whats goin on with the quins game - was expecting them to sell a stand to businesses again but nothing seems to have been said. Are they planning to do this for another game does anyone know?
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| Quote ="nohalfbacks"Anybody would think you are doing a Sports Marketing degree or something.
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Sarcasm. None of that has anything to do with things I have done at uni, but it is clear common sense.
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| anyone know if they've done anything with heinz/another sponsor for the quins game next week?
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| Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"anyone know if they've done anything with heinz/another sponsor for the quins game next week?'"
It would be a bit late for that now surely!
Can't believe they havn't done it again, it pushed 19k that crowd last year.
Hopefully they will do it for one of the other games with hardly any away support.... maybe Crusaders, last game of the season? If we were to lift the league leaders shield on that game and Heinze bought the North stand out we would get 20k for that!
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| Quote ="meast"i would hope that we will sell the 1500 and then some more if our club also market the ar$e of this game.
our away support has been pretty poor over the years but is improving,slowly but it's improving
2000 at leeds
1500 at wrexham
[u500 at perpignan[/u
recently is testament to this.
however if the game is on sky then it will no doubt affect our numbers as our fans dont seem to
A:like attending sky games
B:like attending friday night games'"
you normally only bring 100 to us but took 5 times that to perpignan?
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| Quote ="Pieman"you normally only bring 100 to us but took 5 times that to perpignan?'"
It was a Bank Holiday weekend, and lots of fans enjoy their Perpignan experience.
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| I think it's a great thing that Wigan do r.e marketing for these games. I think playing a team that will actually bring a decent following would be better for this years though.
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| Quote ="Lost Cowboy"I think it's a great thing that Wigan do r.e marketing for these games. I think playing a team that will actually bring a decent following would be better for this years though.'"
I don't; we should be aiming at increasing our home support, not relying on away fans boosting attendance. It's not just a one-off effect we're looking for, it's attracting new fans, or increasing the repeat visits of our casual fans.
With that in mind, we pick what's most likely to be an entertaining game.
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| wont get as big of a crowd because huddersfield wont take as mant as wire did or leeds plus the concept of playin wire sounds better then huddersfield to a glory wigan fan wether its called "big one" or not
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| Huddersfield the Big one ?
Bit of an oxymoron to me.
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