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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"here here, same goes for me, would love his passion at Warrington. In such a close game the way he ripped into his depleted teammates for not being good enough (to put it politely), was good to see.'"
He wasn't doing that. He was pushing them on.
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| Quote ="moonlight flit"Was it Meli who when pulled for a penalty did the f*** you sign with his arms at the ref ?'"
It looked like it but he was explaining that his arm was under Sam's head.
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| Quote ="moonlight flit"Was it Meli who when pulled for a penalty did the f*** you sign with his arms at the ref ?'"
Yes - I was surprisingly shocked!
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| Quote ="Pemps"It looked like it but he was explaining that his arm was under Sam's head.[/qu
True.
Thas a little tactic that Tomkins does everytime he gets tackled.
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| did i see it right on the tv, that graham was shouting and screaming at the rest of his team the whole match and after the final hooter got them all together to give them a yelling at?! what a baby,
it could be cut to make it all look worse than it was, but it looked like he was telling the rest of his team that they where "S**T"
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| Quote ="truewiganer"did i see it right on the tv, that graham was shouting and screaming at the rest of his team the whole match and after the final hooter got them all together to give them a yelling at?! what a baby,
it could be cut to make it all look worse than it was, but it looked like he was telling the rest of his team that they where "S**T"'"
No mate you didn't see it right.
Graham was telling them that they should be proud of themselves and don't let this loss effect us. He was saying we came to the home of the champs with only 19 fit players and lost two more after 30 mins and still could have won. He was saying that he was proud of all the young lads. He was saying we are as good as anyone. He was saying don't forget today when we play Wigan again!
I thought it was very good for a young inexperienced captain
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| Quote ="St pete"No mate you didn't see it right.
Graham was telling them that they should be proud of themselves and don't let this loss effect us. He was saying we came to the home of the champs with only 19 fit players and lost two more after 30 mins and still could have won. He was saying that he was proud of all the young lads. He was saying we are as good as anyone. He was saying don't forget today when we play Wigan again!
I thought it was very good for a young inexperienced captain'"
well i doubt you can be sure of what he said unless you was there or your an amazing lip reader but for me it reminded me of what faz used to do to our lads behind the posts.
Graham is a dummy spitter and does annoy the opposite fans but its because he is good at what he does and hates losing just like we have Sam who does the exact same
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| Does Graham act like a baby sometimes? Yep he sure does BUT I would have him at Wigan in a heartbeat. What a player!!
The game over here will be poorer by his absence next year thats for sure. I dont know how Stains even try to replace such a talisman in their side. It took us years to get over Andy Farrell leaving.
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| Class player who shows passion.
Wish he was our player.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Class player who shows passion.
Wish he was our player.'"
I need to lie down, i'm agreeing with Brett again.
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| Quote ="FAXE LUCAS"well i doubt you can be sure of what he said unless you was there or your an amazing lip reader but for me it reminded me of what faz used to do to our lads behind the posts.
Graham is a dummy spitter and does annoy the opposite fans but its because he is good at what he does and hates losing just like we have Sam who does the exact same'"
Probably not the literal translation, as it misses out the F words. But from Fosters interview, it seams to cover the same ground.
Basically there were alot of kids out there who are going out on Monday again and Graham's job is to make sure that this game does not knock us off course. It's 1 loss but we don't want it to turn into a run of losses, so a quick motivational speach.
=#FF8040Get your f'in heads up lads, I don't wanna see no f'in feeling sorry for you f'in selfves. Those f'in, wiganers where f'in on the f'in rack and you almost f'in had em, just keep that in f'in mind when we f'in play em next time and f'in f'em up the f'in ars* the next f'in time. Now lets go clap the f'in fans and have a good rest and f'in get your f'in heads in gear for monday and we'll f'in batter those f'in yorkshire tarts from f'in cas.
That would be my traslation of the speach anyways.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"
=#FF8040Get your f'in heads up lads, I don't wanna see no f'in feeling sorry for you f'in selfves. Those f'in, wiganers where f'in on the f'in rack and you almost f'in had em, just keep that in f'in mind when we f'in play em next time and f'in f'em up the f'in ars* the next f'in time. Now lets go clap the f'in fans and have a good rest and f'in get your f'in heads in gear for monday and we'll f'in batter those f'in yorkshire tarts from f'in cas.
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| Quote ="FAXE LUCAS"well i doubt you can be sure of what he said unless you was there or your an amazing lip reader but for me it reminded me of what faz used to do to our lads behind the posts.
Graham is a dummy spitter and does annoy the opposite fans but its because he is good at what he does and hates losing just like we have Sam who does the exact same'"
No mate I wasn't in that group or a lip reader but know a player who told me exactly what was said.
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| Quote ="truewiganer"did i see it right on the tv, that graham was shouting and screaming at the rest of his team the whole match and after the final hooter got them all together to give them a yelling at?! what a baby,
it could be cut to make it all look worse than it was, but it looked like he was telling the rest of his team that they where "S**T"'"
Don't be soft. He gave the same kind of speech in the same manner before the game when they had a pre-match huddle. That was on Sky too. Did you not see it? Jammer is a motivator, that's why he is joint captain. He was giving them the same kind of speech at the end, not letting them allow a loss to get to them. I caught 'cheat' and plenty of other words in there too! He wanted to fire them up for Monday, not let their heads go down. We had a lot of inexperienced players in that team.
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| I echo what everyone else says, fantastic player, but a very sore loser. Saying that though many players are driven by the hatred of losing, and thats what makes them such good players.
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| ginger whinger calling wigan cheats NOW that is a joke
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| Quote ="Bazzer b cherry and white"ginger whinger calling wigan cheats NOW that is a joke
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According to?
Don't mix fans making stuff up with what has actually been said, which most people will never know.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Don't mix fans making stuff up with what has actually been said, which most people will never know.'"
Actually, he did say 'cheats' and he said lots of 'f***ings': both those words were very clear! Whether he was calling Wigan cheats, though, is another matter entirely.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Actually, he did say 'cheats' and he said lots of 'f***ings': both those words were very clear! Whether he was calling Wigan cheats, though, is another matter entirely.'"
Well I bow to your lip reading knowledge. However in the end it was a motivational talk for the players. Whether it was what he really thinks is another matter.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Well I bow to your lip reading knowledge. '"
Didn't need any! Those words were obvious to anyone and everyone!!
Quote However in the end it was a motivational talk for the players. '"
Totally agree.
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| james graham best prop in the league as for a dummy spitter not sure , there is a fine line between being a spitter and passionate player which graham certainly is the lad is world class
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| say what u want, hes a sore loser!
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| Quote ="truewiganer"say what u want, hes a sore loser!'"
Can't really argue with you on this.
What I will say for Jammer though he is all class and will be a big loss to us if he leaves Saints.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Whether he was calling Wigan cheats, though, is another matter entirely.'"
Well you seem quite certain on your board that he was, I've noticed on a couple of your posts you said something along the lines of your sure he's calling them cheats
Quote ="SaintsFan"That is exactly what I thought too. I'm sure he said at one stage that they (Wigan) were just a load of f****** cheats! (or words to that effect!)'"
Quote ="SaintsFan"You don't lip read then? I'm sure he was saying that they were a load of cheats!'"
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| Quote ="Warrior-Lou"Well you seem quite certain on your board that he was, I've noticed on a couple of your posts you said something along the lines of your sure he's calling them cheats'"
That's what it looked like but I'm only certain of the word 'cheats' and 'f******'. He isn't going to be calling Saints cheats now is he?
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