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| Quote ="Bergen Bulldog"How about Matty Johns, has a good reputation in Australia for being very knowledgeable about the sport especially tactically.
Maybe the club could see whether a career in coaching would interest him, if so it would give him an opportunity to begin away from the NRL spotlight.
Plus he's a former player for the club and that may help the club to lure him over here.'"
No thanks, another aussie who bailed out early on his wigan contract
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| Personally id brink back John Kear what a guy
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| If Wane does not get it. Then give it to the 18th Man i say. Each week one of us should get to pick and coach the team.
Always promote from within.
If my plan is accepted then i am taking charge 6th October 2012
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| would personally like to see a combination of Wane and Edwards.
I get the feeling Wane is an outstanding second but not sure he has what it takes to be a lead coach, without a strong "partner".
Ricky Stewart would be my first choice if we cannot get that combination, Cartwright at the Titans looks like he will be available and I would also hope he would be a potential target. Very similar principles to Madge.
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| We've got to look to Australia again for me. I think Wane will make a top Wigan coach but not quite yet. Maguire worked his way up and did 5 years as assisstant, Wane has only had 2. Another couple of years as 2nd in command will only benefit Wane in the long run.
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| Craig Bellamy. Second best coach in the game behind Bennett. Although sadly he'd never come over.
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| IMO its simple. If Wane thinks he is ready to take the job, then IMO give it him. He has won championships with all the teams he has coached either as head coach or assistant. If he feels he is not ready and would like more time as an assistant then IMO we should look at someone who is happy to carry on in the same manor that MM has started. The last thing we need is a Brian MAC type situation that is happening at Leeds.
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| Maybe you'd benefit from a 'Director of Rugby' type appointment if it's the right man. I don't know enough about Shaun Wane to really offer an opinion other than obviously he's pretty inexperienced as a SL coach and maybe could benefit from a bit more guidance. Then again, God rest his soul, neither had Mike Gregory who I think was pretty close to getting you where you needed to be so I guess it's always a judgement call.
Someone like John Monie perhaps who would just act as a mentor figure without getting involved in the day to day stuff.
Just a thought. Your Chairman ain't stupid so it will be a well thought through appointment.
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| Quote ="Allez"[uMaybe you'd benefit from a 'Director of Rugby' type appointment[/u if it's the right man. I don't know enough about Shaun Wane to really offer an opinion other than obviously he's pretty inexperienced as a SL coach and maybe could benefit from a bit more guidance. Then again, God rest his soul, neither had Mike Gregory who I think was pretty close to getting you where you needed to be so I guess it's always a judgement call.
Someone like John Monie perhaps who would just act as a mentor figure without getting involved in the day to day stuff.
Just a thought. Your Chairman ain't stupid so it will be a well thought through appointment.'"
it has never worked
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"We've got to look to Australia again for me. I think Wane will make a top Wigan coach but not quite yet. Maguire worked his way up and did 5 years as assisstant, Wane has only had 2. Another couple of years as 2nd in command will only benefit Wane in the long run.'"
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| As a wire fan, no offence but if wane got the job i can't see him carrying on maguire's work to the same degree. Personally, if edwards isn't coming home, then i think lam with wane assistant a bit longer is the way to go.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"We've got to look to Australia again for me. I think Wane will make a top Wigan coach but not quite yet. Maguire worked his way up and did 5 years as assisstant, Wane has only had 2. Another couple of years as 2nd in command will only benefit Wane in the long run.'"
Yep, i agree. Maybe a more experienced coach from Aus just to build on the new ideas brought in by MM. Then in 2-3 years Wane may get top job.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"We've got to look to Australia again for me. I think Wane will make a top Wigan coach but not quite yet. Maguire worked his way up and did 5 years as assisstant, Wane has only had 2. Another couple of years as 2nd in command will only benefit Wane in the long run.'"
Yeah same for me!
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| Ian Lenagans recruitment since taking over at Wigan has been almost perfect if not perfect to date.
I always felt that under Maurice Lindsey and the formation of Superleague that we were very much out of touch with what was happening in the NRL in relation to recruitment - Lindsey would always go for big names but they didn't always prove to be the right choice for Wigan, im not convinced that all of his coaching options were the best either although many would argue that he didnt get them long enough or the freedom to sign the players that they wanted.
When we were linked with Micheal Maguire few in this country knew who he was, the same could be said about Bitcon yet both have proved to be quality accusitions to Wigan - some credit must go to Tony Rae for that and ive no doubt he will be consulted again with regard to the availability of coaches in the NRL - not just for next season but in the years ahead (even if Wane is given the job).
I just hope that whoever is given the job is given it on the basis of not the ability to maintain our current standards but who can improve the team further.
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| It should be wanes. If waney feels he is ready give it to him. If not get searching Aus again. The only other coach I would consider is Nathan Brown.
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| Ian Millward.
nah Shaun Edwards!!!
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| I hope you go with Wane or Edwards.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I hope you go with Wane or Edwards.'"
That's the way it should be for me.
Wane has earned his chance to step up IMO.
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| Quote ="Guerrier"That's the way it should be for me.
Wane has earned his chance to step up IMO.'"
I think I'm hoping it for very different reasons to you!
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I think I'm hoping it for very different reasons to you!
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We've seen the insightful reasons that some of your fans have given for wanting Waney to get the gig as you think he will fail.
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He's ugly, He's a Meathead, I worked with him when he was a Rep (What the hell that has to do with anything is beyond me!), he has no tactical brains (How the hell you lot would know that is staggering but I suppose he could never hope to have the Tactical intellect of Saintsfan).
Personally, I'll have a little bet that IL decides to give it to who he thinks is the Best available (Or possibly become available with a tempting offer just for DaveO ) man for the Job as I am sure he wouldn't want to undo the good work the club has done over the last 3 years or so.
If that's Waney that's good enough for me, 2 years under Madge and 4 successful years at 18/20's level is pretty good grounding in my book and if Madge/IL think he's the man that'll be good enough for me! Only time will tell if they/we are right but there's only 1 way were going to find out. Picking the right number 2 will be critical!
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| The more I think about it, the more I think it might be too soon for Waney and he needs to serve another few years as a no.2 with another NRL coach in the way Madge did before he stepped up at Wigan.
Basically I think we should move heaven and earth to get Tim Sheens in as the next coach. He's off contract at the end of the season with Wests. We need to move fast to secure a top quality replacement as I expect the Whinos and Widnes to start throwing big money about to get a top coach for 2012.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"We've seen the insightful reasons that some of your fans have given for wanting Waney to get the gig as you think he will fail.
They range from
He's ugly, He's a Meathead, I worked with him when he was a Rep (What the hell that has to do with anything is beyond me!), he has no tactical brains (How the hell you lot would know that is staggering but I suppose he could never hope to have the Tactical intellect of Saintsfan).
Personally, I'll have a little bet that IL decides to give it to who he thinks is the Best available (Or possibly become available with a tempting offer just for DaveO
) man for the Job as I am sure he wouldn't want to undo the good work the club has done over the last 3 years or so.
If that's Waney that's good enough for me, 2 years under Madge and 4 successful years at 18/20's level is pretty good grounding in my book and if Madge/IL think he's the man that'll be good enough for me! Only time will tell if they/we are right but there's only 1 way were going to find out. Picking the right number 2 will be critical!'"
You may well be right fella, but recent history suggests that getting in a promising/experienced NRL coach is the way to improve a side in SL with very very few exceptions.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"You may well be right fella, but recent history suggests that getting in a promising/experienced NRL coach is the way to improve a side in SL with very very few exceptions.'"
The point I was making is that there are a number of Saints fans "Hoping" Waney will get for absolutely ridiculous reasons when they have no idea whether he would or would not make a Good 1st team coach.
I haven't much more inside info on his abilities than anyone else but I wouldn't be coming on here spouting that he'll be the next Wayne Bennett either just to make it look like I know something I don't.The honest answer is no-one will know until the person chosen is given 12/24 months in the job.
I'm just saying it's quite simple, if Madge/IL (And I think IL will discuss with numerous sources not just Madge as he has always taken on info with his previous appointments) think he is the right man then I think that will be a pretty good endorsement? There is certainly no incentive for either of them to make the wrong choice?
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