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| Quote ="wigan pie man"[uanyone care to incur the wrath of the mods and speculate about why Gleeson isnt playing?[/u...........ive hearn nothing...not even a rumour, which is unusual.'"
Please do
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"anyone care to incur the wrath of the mods and speculate about why Gleeson isnt playing?...........ive hearn nothing...not even a rumour, which is unusual.'"
You never know there may not be that much in it. Maybe it's just a case of Gleeson and Maguire are like chalk and cheese respectively and that Maguire might see Gleeson as a loose cannon.
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| seems convenient that Phil Bailey has just retired who plays in the centre just after this rumour has started??? would make sense
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| Quote ="Andy Wire"You never know there may not be that much in it. Maybe it's just a case of Gleeson and Maguire are like chalk and cheese respectively and that Maguire might see Gleeson as a loose cannon.'"
Gleeson won't play for Wigan again.
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| Quote ="Andy Wire"You never know there may not be that much in it. Maybe it's just a case of Gleeson and Maguire are like chalk and cheese respectively and that Maguire might see Gleeson as a loose cannon.'"
Unless there's an absolute breakdown in relationships or stepping over the line, most industrial disciplinary routes are designed to send a warning, and aim to improve performance, maybe with training or a re-aligning of knowledge and attitude.
They don't always have to end in contract termination.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Please do
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wow........i see your finger hovering over the BAN button.
my lips are as sealed as the clubs.
you know why?
because the club know as much as i do............nothing.
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| He wouldn't be a major loss to Wigan as: 1. Good young players coming through in the backs (Marsh/Charnley) and 2. Performance wise Gleese has been up and down due to injuries and his off field antics have finally taken it's toll. He will probably end up with his brother in the national leagues thats if Salford doesn't sort him out.
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| Right now though we could do with him, as the youngsters are not quite ready for regular starting berths. We are paying him not to play, which is madness.
As far as I know, he hasnt been charged or convicted of any crime. We paid and played Feka whilst he was awaiting his court case, as did Saints with Pryce. The only reason I can think of is that the request not to be selected has come from the player and not the club. If that was the case, the club could have made a statement saying he was being given XX amount of time away for compassionate reasons.
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| Quote ="martinbuckley"
As far as I know, he hasnt been charged or convicted of any crime. '"
Nor has Hock, I think the nature / circumstances matter.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"This sort of thing annoys the hell out of me.
Gleeson who, imo, was our best centre acts like and idiot and leaves Wigan with two choices we either keep him in the side and almost condone what ever it is he’s done or we sack him and let him move to another club.
How in any way shape or form is that fair on Wigan? Let’s face it we’ve done nothing wrong here and now Salford pick up a dam good player probably on cheap wages and don’t even have to pay a fee for him!! We coughed up 100k for him less than 2 years ago.
Like the Hock situation before it Wigan have come off worse by losing a quality player.'"
Is surely very similar to how he left Saints? At the time, he was in his prime, did something stupid, and we lost him. Ok we got a bag full of cash for him, signed Lyon, and so things worked out ok, but he should still be a Saint now. I guess some players have a self destruct button, we should learn from that, or at least not be surprised when they do implode again.
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| Just a quick one on this.
Why can't we speculate as to why Gleeson has been suspended? unless he is a rapist or something like that it is good to have a guessing game about this.
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| Quote ="tonybirdie"Just a quick one on this.
Why can't we speculate as to why Gleeson has been suspended? unless he is a rapist or something like that it is good to have a guessing game about this.'"
Yeah this thread is definitely getting locked now...
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| Quote ="hula89"Yeah this thread is definitely getting locked now...'"
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| Quote ="tonybirdie"Just a quick one on this.
Why can't we speculate as to why Gleeson has been suspended? unless he is a rapist or something like that it is good to have a guessing game about this.'"
I suggest you look up the word "libel" in a dictionary.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"I suggest you look up the word "libel" in a dictionary.'"
Best make it easier for him because I think he'd struggle to do that:
Libel: a false and malicious publication printed for the purpose of defaming a living person.
This can of course include speculation on a site such as this (even speculation that is CLEARLY fake a wink smiley doesn't hold up in court believe it or not)
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| Quote ="hula89"Best make it easier for him because I think he'd struggle to do that:
Libel: a false and malicious publication printed for the purpose of defaming a living person.
This can of course include speculation on a site such as this (even speculation that is CLEARLY fake a wink smiley doesn't hold up in court believe it or not)'"
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What you said there is libel, saying i would struggle to do that. Could be classes as insinuating something about me.
Just interested in the reason why, thats all.
Guess i will have to wait like everybody else.
Keeps smiling now
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| On the text it says that Wakefield are in for him ?????????????????
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| im bored of the gleeson saga the club is shocking at announcments so much for being intouch with the fans
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| Quote ="tonybirdie"Hula89
What you said there is libel, saying i would struggle to do that. Could be classes as insinuating something about me.
Just interested in the reason why, thats all.
Guess i will have to wait like everybody else.
Keeps smiling now
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I had reason to believe, based on previous comments, that a dictionary would be above your level.
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| Quote ="hula89"I had reason to believe, based on previous comments, that a dictionary would be above your level.'"
That sounds pretty libellous to me.....
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| Quote ="DaveO"That sounds pretty libellous to me.....
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I understand a good defence against a libel action is to show it's the truth...
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| Quote ="Geoff"I understand a good defence against a libel action is to show it's the truth...'"
... or fair comment.
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| Quote ="bestie1983"im bored of the gleeson saga the club is shocking at announcments so much for being intouch with the fans'"
For all we know, it could be out of the club's hands. It might not be their place to say.
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| We dont even seem to be getting injury updates or anything from the club, just oh btw hes injured,
seems a bit of a closed shop at the movement. At least it seems that way to me
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