Any one know the penalty count today??

Consider it done.



Back to back appearances for Richard Agar.

We have had that for the last 3yrs with this inept idiot in charge,he is so far out of his depth its unreal but the board cant see it.

I wouldnt listen to him....his talks are bloody boring as well.

Well, he's only small.

Thought they went well at first and looked quite good. We were quite poor and lethargic and very lucky to win. When they started the niggly tactics they undid all the good work they had done earlier and it cost them the game. Ganson was very poor though, completely lost the game at one point.

Thats Agar for you....he bloody panicks when we get a lead,even a small one and seems to send the message out to defend raher than attack....sooner we get rid the better.

I don't recall anyone saying we're innocent at all. In fact if you engage the brain you'll see universal condemnation of Joel Tomkins, for example.

I'd have thought teams would have realised by now that a game plan consisting of "Smash Sam Tomkins", doesn't work, and never has.

You have the makings of a very good team there, it just needs the right coaching. You only have to look at our turnaround under a new coach. Whilst i giggle at your avatar i do tend to agree with you.

Agree re Ganson .... his lack of action following Yeaman and Joel Tompkins spat (both should have been sin binned)could have led to a more serious brawl. Thought he lost control of this game

I like how some of the Wigan posters are slagging off Agar as if that would bother FC fans - they've clearly not visited our forum over the past few seasons.

Can't comment on the game, couldn't make it over today so had to listen to the radio.

Kear and Sharpe was sacked with a better win % than Agar but yet he is still in charge and got a bloody extension.We know a better coach wouls improve us and id even take Noble (and i dont rate him at all).

Think that performance has extended his stay for a week or two at least.

I'd have been embarassed if Maguire came out and said something like that. And the bit in bold, he's encouraging his players to fight if they don't like what the referee says?



Hull are lucky Ganson forgot his yellow card today!

He's obviously got compromising pictures of the board!!

Not what James Rule said on radio.....a emphatic NO when asked if Agars future had been discussed....tbh mate,its getting to a point where i want us to lose to get rid of him.

The sooner coaches stop moaning in the press and start coming up with tactics to play against us rather than just to "Smash Sam Tomkins" then the sooner they will start beating us.

Joel was an absolute tool! However, Manu should also have walked and if he doesn't get the same ban as Joel I think the RFL are idiots.

I would say that, normally, it should be less but I think it should instead be level as Joel was obviously punished on pitch by being sent off whereas the Manu offences only got a penalty.

To be honest mate i think your men have been shortchanged with first team coaches for a while. Seems like the same kind of mentality we had under Mo & Whelan. Maybe look higher than the current coach for real change.

Id personally look at a assistant like you guys did,Jim Dymock is highly rated,Steve price or Jason Taylor,Daniel Anderson,Steve Folkes.

Manu won't even have a case to answer to - did nothing wrong.

Agar is a clown, we will agree on that.

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Actually listening to the comments and not just reading them highlights just how much Agar embarrassed himself.

Would just like to see your great club get a top coach, you have all the tools but i feel your top level management is the biggest problem.

Apart from coaches,i havent a problem with our board.....we make a profit,merchandise is very good and we have fans forums...just get coaches wrong.

Readin them was shocking, hearing them, well, it tops last years winning Mr Kear and his paint drying rant.

Agar is in that category, a less than average coach, lucky to be employed, whose only idea is to use illegal tactics to try and take out the best british player in the comp and to slow the game right down. It very nearly worked today, but knowing how Madge works, im sure we wont be as easily sucked in at the KC.

To say we were lucky to finish with 12 and demand the RFL look as us closely could backfire, because for my money Manu, Lauaki and Yeaman could all be called up.

They should be.

But I have so little confidence in the RFL that I would be shocked if they are.