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| for anyone from wigan to say salford is a bum hole is a farce!!check house prices for a start!what can wigan boast of other than your team,ur "making up the numbers in the premiership" football team and pies?
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| Quote ="wardleyred"for anyone from wigan to say salford is a bum hole is a farce!!check house prices for a start!what can wigan boast of other than your team,ur "making up the numbers in the premiership" football team and pies?'"
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| Quote ="wardleyred"for anyone from wigan to say salford is a bum hole is a farce!!check house prices for a start!what can wigan boast of other than your team,ur "making up the numbers in the premiership" football team and pies?'"
Yeah. I agree with what you say.
Get Stu Littler on another contract NOW.........!!!!
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| Quote ="wardleyred"for anyone from wigan to say salford is a bum hole is a farce!!check house prices for a start!what can wigan boast of other than your team,ur "making up the numbers in the premiership" football team and pies?'"
George Formby, The Verve, Sir Ian McKellan...do you want me to go on?
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| Quote ="Spurry"George Formby, The Verve, Sir Ian McKellan...do you want me to go on?
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Don't forget Nikki Jayne! (googling may be NSFW...)
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| Quote ="Geoff"Don't forget Nikki Jayne! (googling may be NSFW...)'"
I've no need to Google the name, recognized it instantly.
Never been a fan of the Wigan accent, but coming out her, well it doesn't sound that bad.
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| I don't think it would get sung if Feka or Salford were a threat. I imagine they find it quite condescending tbh.
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| [iI still cant make my mind up if all Wigan Warriors fans were glad to see the back of 'Fecka' if the truth is known?
Plus by keep chanting his name are they really taking the p@ss out of the big fella? WHO KNOWS.
I'm hoping this big powerful prop does come good for the Salford City Reds, in my eyes he is a luxury we can't afford at this time but in saying that I really hope he proves me wrong.
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| Quote ="the hedonic calculator"What is the "pc brigade"?
Is it a rugby league phenomenom or some sort of Salford thing?
As for swearing being a "non-issue" - if it offends someone then it autmatically becomes an issue for them. There is no way around this and the best course of action is to avoid such language if there is the possibility that it may cause offence.
There are several words that are only words, as you put it. For instance, if I was to say to you "get a grip, you stupid c*nt" then you may not be at all upset by this statement of the obvious. However, if I was to say it to my aunt (not that I would, on the grounds that she shows far more intelligence, despite suffering from alzheimers) then she would take great offence and cut me off in her will. And that is without going down the inherently dangerous path of racist or homophobic words that are, inevitably, just words. I suggest you have another little think about it.'"
The PC brigade are the political correctness idiots who run around trying to stamp out anything that may be deemed as offensive.. They guys who are ‘outraged’ at what Andy Gray said. It’s the kind of muppets who want black boards in school to be called chalk boards, the kind of people who do stuff like this;
[urlhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3229529/Toy-store-goes-PC-mad-with-pig-ban.html[/url
[urlhttp://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article738220.ece[/url
Whilst I agree there should be a cut off point the women at the match who was ‘outraged’ by the word hole in chant at a rugby game really needs to stop being so sensitive.
ATEOTD people like the lady mentioned in this thread will find offence in anything and I can’t see why that should stop the rest for having some light hearted banter now and again.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"The PC brigade are the political correctness idiots who run around trying to stamp out anything that may be deemed as offensive.. They guys who are ‘outraged’ at what Andy Gray said. It’s the kind of muppets who want black boards in school to be called chalk boards, the kind of people who do stuff like this;
[urlhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3229529/Toy-store-goes-PC-mad-with-pig-ban.html[/url
[urlhttp://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article738220.ece[/url
Whilst I agree there should be a cut off point the women at the match who was ‘outraged’ by the word hole in chant at a rugby game really needs to stop being so sensitive.
ATEOTD people like the lady mentioned in this thread will find offence in anything and I can’t see why that should stop the rest for having some light hearted banter now and again.'"
I'm far from being a member of the PC Brigade. I dislike the 'Salford's a....' chant because it's pathetic. It adds nothing to the atmosphere at all.
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| In all fairness. The Salford chant was nothing compared to ones sung at wire/saints/leeds matches. If you don't want to be near "abusive" people stand at the side of the stand or sit at the top.
IMO rugby chants are nothing like any other sports. In football, teams chant about Munich and hillsborough. That's the offensive ones.
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| Quote ="P-J"I'm far from being a member of the PC Brigade. I dislike the 'Salford's a....' chant because it's pathetic. It adds nothing to the atmosphere at all.'"
I think you are missing my point.
Some people might not like the chant, others might have liked it the first time and then got easily bored with it & others might want to sing it all night but to be disgusted/outraged by a petty chant like that is laughable. I simply can’t see why some people are that easily offended.
I took the chant as a light hearted set of banter between the fans and whilst we didn’t need to keep singing it all night the original chant was quite funny imo.
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| Quote ="wardleyred"for anyone from wigan to say salford is a bum hole is a farce!!check house prices for a start!what can wigan boast of other than your team,ur "making up the numbers in the premiership" football team and pies?'"
I work in Salford and trust me Langworthy makes Plattbridge look like Beverley Hills
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Well Salford is a City so the house prices will automatically be higher than in a town no matter how much of a poophole it is. Look at the house prices in Birmingham for example
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| Found it odd , that there was so much chanting for Feka , is that a sign you want him back .
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| Quote ="Geoff"Don't forget Nikki Jayne! (googling may be NSFW...)'"
I know I'm going to regret this, but..............what is NSFW?
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| Quote ="u45d"Found it odd , that there was so much chanting for Feka , is that a sign you want him back .
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"The PC brigade are the political correctness idiots who run around trying to stamp out anything that may be deemed as offensive.. They guys who are ‘outraged’ at what Andy Gray said. It’s the kind of muppets who want black boards in school to be called chalk boards, the kind of people who do stuff like this;
[urlhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3229529/Toy-store-goes-PC-mad-with-pig-ban.html[/url
[urlhttp://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article738220.ece[/url
Whilst I agree there should be a cut off point the women at the match who was ‘outraged’ by the word hole in chant at a rugby game really needs to stop being so sensitive.
ATEOTD people like the lady mentioned in this thread will find offence in anything and I can’t see why that should stop the rest for having some light hearted banter now and again.'"
Generally I find the amount of people who go on about the 'PC brigade' far outweigh the amount of people making daft decisions like this. Its worth pointing out that these are very isolated instances and nothing to do with any law. It worries me that some people are so ignorant about the real issues surrounding race that they think this is how to counteract them though
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| Back to the moronic chant.
Personally I would rather our fans sing / chant/support our team than spend half the game singing a derisory chant about the state of the other teams home.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Back to the moronic chant.
Personally I would rather our fans sing / chant/support our team than spend half the game singing a derisory chant about the state of the other teams home.'"
I would agree totally but I presume that would make me a "moaning woman", like the one behind Pie Eyed. If only all other parents had been concerned enough to provide such excellent guidance for their children - to encourage a change from 'hole' to 'b*mhole' would have made all the difference.
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How do you know that, Kat?
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"The PC brigade are the political correctness idiots who run around trying to stamp out anything that may be deemed as offensive.. They guys who are ‘outraged’ at what Andy Gray said. It’s the kind of muppets who want black boards in school to be called chalk boards, the kind of people who do stuff like this;
[urlhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3229529/Toy-store-goes-PC-mad-with-pig-ban.html[/url
[urlhttp://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article738220.ece[/url
Whilst I agree there should be a cut off point the women at the match who was ‘outraged’ by the word hole in chant at a rugby game really needs to stop being so sensitive.
ATEOTD people like the lady mentioned in this thread will find offence in anything and I can’t see why that should stop the rest for having some light hearted banter now and again.'"
Ah.
Well, I personally can't see the problem with being correct (politically or otherwise), especially if it merely means adjusting your behaviour in order to limit the risk of offending others. Is that really so bad? The two instances you single out are fascinating, admittedly.
The "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep" song actually had its roots in a simple attempt to teach nursery level children about the different colours of the rainbow and in fact it still included (and began with) the traditional "Baa Baa Black Sheep" lyrics. Unfortunately a tabloid paper picked up on the story, got it slightly wrong (deliberately or otherwise) and made a huge song and dance about it. Before long there was an outbreak of nursery schools following this lead, presumably because the managers mistakenly thought that there was actually some sort of legislation in place that insisted the words couldn't be used. They probably felt a bit jumpy due to some of the other misleading headlines they'd seen in the Sun. Had the very media that claim to hate this sort of thing not whipped up such a frenzy about it, then the phenomenon might not have actually occurred (or at least certainly not to the same degree).
As for the toy farm, of course there are a number of countries who would not deem it acceptable to promote a childrens' farmyard toy that included a pig. For the manufacturer who wishes to sell their toy in those countries this means they can either split their production into two separate batches - piggy/no piggy, which presumably wouldn't be too difficult but probably a bit of a faff. Or they could remove the pig from all the sets.
After all, one might reason, people in Britain are surely not going to take offence at the absence of pig, are they? Its not like British people are so backward that they would actually work themselves up into a frenzy over the fact that pigs are removed from toy farms, surely!
Lets face it, the absence of pig is not something that can injure or upset anybody on religious, cultural or moral grounds. Besides, they might actually sell a few more sets in the UK to Muslim or Jewish customers.
What could possibly go wrong?
We could argue the pros and cons of such issues until we are all blue in the face, but lets not move too far from the real problem.
People were chanting swear words at a sporting event that markets itself as a "family sport". This upsets some people. Time to stop the chant and perhaps for those who were chanting to issue an apology.
I can't see any realistic argument against this.
Regards.
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