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| Quote ="MattyB"I remember them laughing their cocks off when we lost Farrell.
Screw them.'"
Jokes on them, Wigan had the best out of faz, where eastmonds best years will be in the treatment room at Barth
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| Quote ="GingerWiganer"I didnt see the Saints fans flooding on here saying how disgraceful a certain Mr Ashton was when he left for Yawnion.'"
Indeed. But Wigan fans have a bit more perspective than Saints fans on the whole. Many Saints fans are so blinded by their hatred of Wigan and a general inferiority and insecurity complex that they can't see the damage being done to the game. Just look at the SC threads on which they insanely continue to deny reality like flat earthers confronted with photographs of the earth from orbit.
Years ago Saints fans told us that there wouldn't be defections to RU, or that they would only take the odd player who was at the wrong end of their career. Defections like Jason Robinson were dismissed as anomalies and nothing to be concerned about.
They continued to defend the status quo because they thought it would benefit their club, not caring about the obvious threat to the future of professional RL.
It would be very easy now to laugh at them, to say they are getting what they deserve, but I can't.
If Eastmond goes to RU it will be a bitter blow.
Unless RL discovers some ambition and starts planning to grow the game then the future for professional RL in this country looks pretty grim - a second rate sport played by second rate athletes in front of small crowds and with even less media coverage than it gets now.
I hope the Saints fans and other idiots who have posted on this board to defend the abject failure of the RFL and the SL clubs to manage and develop the game are happy.
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| im disapointed to see him go to be honest. He is a cracking player (when fit). Eastmond and tomkins would make a superp pairing for england. Saints will have his salery cap space to replace him.No doubt they will have their eye on someone. On the flip side it is saints were on about so anything that weekens their team is a bonus
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| On a serious note with the sky deal due for negotiation what are sky going to think when so called top names are defecting to RU, they pay there money to show a quality sport with the best talent on show and likewise so do the fans. If the quality of the product is diluted or the biggest names who draw people into the sport are leaving then sponsors and fans alike have every right to ask what are we getting for our money ?
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| Quote ="Pie minister"On a serious note with the sky deal due for negotiation what are sky going to think when so called top names are defecting to RU, they pay there money to show a quality sport with the best talent on show and likewise so do the fans. If the quality of the product is diluted or the biggest names who draw people into the sport are leaving then sponsors and fans alike have every right to ask what are we getting for our money ?'"
It's okay the game still has Richie Mathers.
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| Quote ="jameswk"im disapointed to see him go to be honest. He is a cracking player (when fit). Eastmond and tomkins would make a superp pairing for england. Saints will have his salery cap space to replace him.No doubt they will have their eye on someone. On the flip side it is saints were on about so anything that weekens their team is a bonus
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Not sure he'd have been on that much really considering his age. Depends how much Saints gave him when he first signed a first team contract, unless he signed a deal after that that I didn't hear about that would have been the deal that he's currently on that expires at the end of this season
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| Quote ="MattyB"It's okay the game still has Richie Mathers.'"
Good call ! Forgot about him
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| Personally if he goes I will be well gutted.
The potential of this kid holds no bounds and for me is a big blow for the game itself.
I remember when Ashton left you guys and didn't he hold up a RU shirt at the time.
As I have said previously when we lose our players to union it really pi55es me off no matter which club they play for.
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| i was told when chris ashton jumped to union, it was the biggest percentage pay rise for any one rugby player ever. Now i dont know that for sure but if it is true and eastmond has been offered similar then hey , who can blame him
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| We don't need a player who would rather be elsewhere. Tomkins and Racthford will do just fine for England!
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| Coincidence?
Sale sharks have announced on their official website that a new signing is to be announced at 7:45am tomorrow morning.
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| Quote ="jameswk"i was told when chris ashton jumped to union, it was the biggest percentage pay rise for any one rugby player ever. Now i dont know that for sure but if it is true and eastmond has been offered similar then hey , who can blame him'"
Somebody on the Virtual Terrace quoted that Wigan offered Ashton a big pay increase at £70k per season to stay. Northampton came in with £140k per season.
Bearing in mind that was three years ago and he is now the darling of English RU he could well be getting double that!
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| Quote ="Pie minister"On a serious note with the sky deal due for negotiation what are sky going to think when so called top names are defecting to RU, they pay there money to show a quality sport with the best talent on show and likewise so do the fans. If the quality of the product is diluted or the biggest names who draw people into the sport are leaving then sponsors and fans alike have every right to ask what are we getting for our money ?'"
They dont give a crap who plays, viewing figures are king so we are safe ish for now imo.
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| Quote ="Pie minister"On a serious note with the sky deal due for negotiation what are sky going to think when so called top names are defecting to RU, they pay there money to show a quality sport with the best talent on show and likewise so do the fans. If the quality of the product is diluted or the biggest names who draw people into the sport are leaving then sponsors and fans alike have every right to ask what are we getting for our money ?'"
That's a fair point but the RFL would argue that we have enough top names remaining in SL that it doesn't have much impact on Sky and the sponsors. Also, quite a few who 'crossed over' have come back.
On the other hand, Eastmond's age and undoubted potential is the most worrying aspect of this affair. It's the quality of players we are starting to lose now, not the quantity that bothers me.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Somebody on the Virtual Terrace quoted that Wigan offered Ashton a big pay increase at £70k per season to stay. Northampton came in with £140k per season.
Bearing in mind that was three years ago and he is now the darling of English RU he could well be getting double that!'"
Money talks hey
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| Quote ="MattyB"Oh well.
Screws them up for a while, so it's not all bad news!
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What a pathetic post!
Yes it's great that one of the best English players is leaving rugby league to go to union.
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| I don't think Eastmond will make it in Union, too small and too soft.
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| Gutted if Eastmond is indeed off to Union. I don't care who he plays for aslong as it's in rugbyleague but that doesn't look like being the case and thats really sad for the sport.
Say what you want about the lads injuries but he's a freakish athlete that doesn't come about too often and as he proved in the four nations of 2009 he could bea genuine threat to the Australians and Kiwi's and we simply don't have enough of those.
Awful day for rugbyleague if he does go.
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| Quote ="St pete"What a pathetic post!
Yes it's great that one of the best English players is leaving rugby league to go to union.'"
aww, diddums.
don't worry, he'll be back with his tail between his legs in 2 seasons
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| Quote ="post"I don't think Eastmond will make it in Union, too small and too soft.'"
erm, hate to point it out, but that's why he's going to union?
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| Wonder what saddened's thoughts are ??
after his laughable rant about wigan not giving thornley what he wanted..I wonder if he's opinion is the same this time round.
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| He should go now and make Bath or whoever pay for him at least that would be some small compensation for the money Saints have sunk into him.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"Wonder what saddened's thoughts are ??
after his laughable rant about wigan not giving thornley what he wanted..I wonder if he's opinion is the same this time round.'"
To be fair to the sad one, I don't think Wigan had to compete with the £200,000 deal that's on the table for Kyle.
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| Quote ="St pete"To be fair to the sad one, I don't think Wigan had to compete with the £200,000 deal that's on the table for Kyle.'"
He slated wigan for not bowing to his demands.
I wonder if he thinks Saints should be bowing to Eastmonds demands.
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| Quote ="St pete"To be fair to the sad one, I don't think Wigan had to compete with the £200,000 deal that's on the table for Kyle.'"
To be fair Thornley wasn't one of our star players. The boot is on the other foot here - if you're going to criticise Wigan for not matching a crazy offer for one of their teenaged academy stars then everyone is going to criticise you for not matching the £200k deal for Eastmond.
As it is neither team is at fault. Union has more money and throws it around where they see fit. There's very, very little League can do to prevent it. We SHOULDN'T match these deals, as a code, it's all about being financially responsible. When you have teams going into administration in the SL it'd be foolish for Wigan/Saints/Leeds etc to try to go toe to toe with Twickenham.
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