He didn't throw it forward though, he knocked it and regathered, so perfectly legal. Joel Tomkins did something similar against Leeds I think in the playoffs.

Unless the rules have changed I'm pretty sure you're allowed to throw the ball over the defence and catch it on the other side if you want to, it just doesn't happen because it would be difficult to pull off, plus if it hits the floor or another player it would be a deliberate knock on - penalty.

Your not and never have been...it is a penalty whether or not it hits the other player or the ground - a player cannot deliberately throw a ball forward in rugby league regardless of whether it hits another man or the floor!

This was the reason I said it was a debatable try. In the refs opinion on the day it was not deliberate, however IMO I would argue it couldnt be argued it wasnt deliberate, as sammut reacted to the pass by deliberately knocking the ball forward as it was the only way he could gather the ball and keep it away from the opposition. Different IMO to what Joel did as he was simply juggled the ball to obtain control and avoid a knock on.

What would be the call? Can't really give a deliberate knock on or deliberate forward pass

as far as i see it it was a perfectly good try, but it's down to the terminology of the rules, an attacking player would never deliberately knock the ball on, thats a rule for potential interceptions, what sammut did was the same as Joel, but with a player in close attendance, so did he "deliberately" throw the ball forward to himself?? imo, he didn't

Your right....its down to interpretation as I said earlier.

I would probably be harsh in those circumstances and deem that as his only way of controlling the ball was to knock it high over the defensive line and re-gather, it had to be a deliberate act to avoid a knock on, however it could be argued the ball freakishly deflected in that way, rather than being intentional, and was accidental. Either way its a dubious try that could have not been given IMO, and perhaps shouldnt have done given the obvious advantage he obtained. That said it was still a v skillful try.

Regarding how it would be disallowed, I guess that if it was seen as an intentional throw forward by the ref, it would be treated as a deliberate forward pass to himself, as a forward pass is simply defined in the rule book as a throw towards the opponent's dead ball line.

That wasn't the one I was on about.
It was a chip kick cross field to the winger who then chipped inside and I think it was the centre who scored (v Bradford?)

I've deleted it now from my sky + so can't be 100% sure.

One factor they look at is whether the player has full possession of the ball before it goes forward, which in Sammut's case he clearly didn't.

Id forgot the other try til then.......It was against bratfut at Wrexham near the end of the season I think. That was a pretty special try actually.

I agree with Sams chip over at Warrington sending joel in at a close second.

However Gerrard Sammuts try at MM was immense!

for the same reasons of controversey I'd put the Crusaders try at Wrexham against Bradford above the MM magic one. THAT Gleeson try though is definately No. 1.

Probably the Gleeson's second in the GF. Watching the way the Saints dropped after that was class. Almost brought a tear to my eye.