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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Good grief.'"
Name me a better winger than Pat then big boy!! |
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Good grief.'"
After your sensible post the other day on the England team selection for the Australia game, I see normal service has been resumed!  |
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| Quote ="Deano G"After your sensible post the other day on the England team selection for the Australia game, I see normal service has been resumed!
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Nobody except a bias Wigan fan would contend that Pat Richards is the very best winger in the world of RL. |
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Banana is a Banana, thank fook im slaughtered.'" You have got a massive chip on your shoulder now if you aint got anything good to say gtfo and dont say anything at all |
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Give it a rest the pair of you!
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Nobody except a bias Wigan fan would contend that Pat Richards is the very best winger in the world of RL.'"
OK, so who would you say is better? |
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| Quote ="Deano G"OK, so who would you say is better?'"
Yeah, funnily enough i'm still waiting for the same reply.  |
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Yeah, funnily enough i'm still waiting for the same reply.
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Yes, spotted that. We may be waiting for some time!
The track record of Saints fans in naming players as the best in the world would have caused me to keep a low profile if I'd been FTV.
It's not that long since the Scousers routinely described Wellens as the best FB in the world. Now that's what I call "bias"! |
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| Quote ="Famous"I thought he was poor today and made some poor decision such as when Thaiday tackled him for the drop out. The things he can get away with at SL level, when he can just ghost around poor players or use his side step, do not work at this level and he needs to expand his game more. Whether he can do this in Super League, where for the majority of time he doesnt need to, I dont know.'"
I personally think what happened to him at AAMI Park will add to a steep learning curve.Think the example used was a bit harsh,since he went lateral in the hope of dodging the two kick chasers from the wing,only to be blind sided by Thaiday,(who was greatly assisted by a goal post).Increasing his size will not help if it diminishes his speed & agility.What he needs to improve is his peripheral vision & natural instincts.
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| Quote ="Deano G"OK, so who would you say is better?'"
There are loads.
Vatuvei, Uate, Morris, Gordon, Boyd, Inu, Nightingale, Tuqiri, Meritt, Best . . . . |
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There are no british based players who are the world's best in their chosen position. Sad, but true.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"There are no british based players who are the world's best in their chosen position. Sad, but true.'" Ellis and burgess? |
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"There are loads.
Vatuvei, Uate, Morris, Gordon, Boyd, Inu, Nightingale, Tuqiri, Meritt, Best . . . .'" Folau is better than all of them |
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"There are loads.
Vatuvei, Uate, Morris, Gordon, Boyd, Inu, Nightingale, Tuqiri, Meritt, Best . . . .'"
Perhaps better as an attacking winger, but do they all offer more to a team that Pat does in terms of tries scored, defensive abilities and kicking? |
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| Quote ="king warrior"Folau is better than all of them'"
I thought I'd included him, but I agree he is an excellent winger. |
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| Quote ="king warrior"Ellis and burgess?'"
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And so it continues!
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=475467
Hardly a Saints fan but most definately no Wolfs on here for a month and then England play and it's open season on Wigan Players.
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According to one thread Ben Harrison was "Great" on Sunday, yet he did no more/less than Joel did previous week after coming on round about the hour mark and he was labelled "Awful".
It's just like the 80's & 90's all over again!
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viewtopic.php?f=21&t=475467
Hardly a Saints fan but most definately no Wolfs on here for a month and then England play and it's open season on Wigan Players.
PS
According to one thread Ben Harrison was "Great" on Sunday, yet he did no more/less than Joel did previous week after coming on round about the hour mark and he was labelled "Awful".
It's just like the 80's & 90's all over again!
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Quote ="Jukesays"And so it continues!
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Hardly a Saints fan but most definately no Wolfs on here for a month and then England play and it's open season on Wigan Players.
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According to one thread Ben Harrison was "Great" on Sunday, yet he did no more/less than Joel did previous week after coming on round about the hour mark and he was labelled "Awful".
It's just like the 80's & 90's all over again!
Love it!'" Well it just shows how clueless they are if they would sooner have a crocked aussie with a year or 2 left in him for one of the best english talents to every play the game |
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Hardly a Saints fan but most definately no Wolfs on here for a month and then England play and it's open season on Wigan Players.
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According to one thread Ben Harrison was "Great" on Sunday, yet he did no more/less than Joel did previous week after coming on round about the hour mark and he was labelled "Awful".
It's just like the 80's & 90's all over again!
Love it!'" Well it just shows how clueless they are if they would sooner have a crocked aussie with a year or 2 left in him for one of the best english talents to every play the game | |
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Quote ="Jukesays"And so it continues!
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Hardly a Saints fan but most definately no Wolfs on here for a month and then England play and it's open season on Wigan Players.
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It's just like the 80's & 90's all over again!
Love it!'"
 really confused here.
Hardly open season. The question is in that thread who would you rather have Hodgeson or Sam on a WIRE BOARD! Most people are saying they'd rather have Hodgeson but some have said Sam. It is about 70/30. If you get upset at 30% of people not preferring Sam at this stage then you have very thin skin.
I made a post I don't think you could argue with in that. Sam is young and,as many have said, needs time to become great. (Some on here suggest he should bulk up, crazy i tell you) While i said that it would be better to develop someone in the Wolves' youth set up instead.
And i think i know what post you are referring to with the Harrison is great thing. That was in the context of the rest of the England team, who were all pretty poor. You should't pick and choose where you quote. You seem to be the one with the bias towards Joel.
There isn't really any hatred for Wigan players. More just disappointment with the England team and especially Sam. He promised so much last year and hasn't delivered.
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viewtopic.php?f=21&t=475467
Hardly a Saints fan but most definately no Wolfs on here for a month and then England play and it's open season on Wigan Players.
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It's just like the 80's & 90's all over again!
Love it!'"
really confused here.
Hardly open season. The question is in that thread who would you rather have Hodgeson or Sam on a WIRE BOARD! Most people are saying they'd rather have Hodgeson but some have said Sam. It is about 70/30. If you get upset at 30% of people not preferring Sam at this stage then you have very thin skin.
I made a post I don't think you could argue with in that. Sam is young and,as many have said, needs time to become great. (Some on here suggest he should bulk up, crazy i tell you) While i said that it would be better to develop someone in the Wolves' youth set up instead.
And i think i know what post you are referring to with the Harrison is great thing. That was in the context of the rest of the England team, who were all pretty poor. You should't pick and choose where you quote. You seem to be the one with the bias towards Joel.
There isn't really any hatred for Wigan players. More just disappointment with the England team and especially Sam. He promised so much last year and hasn't delivered.
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| Quote ="Guerrier"Perhaps better as an attacking winger, but do they all offer more to a team that Pat does in terms of tries scored, defensive abilities and kicking?'"
None of the players mentioned do, IMO.
Its Pat's all-round game that makes him special; it isn't that he's outstanding in one area alone, he is the complete player and very, very consistent. Just look at his stats on the superleague website - e.g. 3rd in the most metres gained, 1st equal in clean breaks.... |
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| Quote ="king warrior"Ellis and burgess?'" Not british based and more importantly not better than Sam Thaiday. |
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Quote ="king warrior"Ellis and burgess?'" Not british based and more importantly not better than Sam Thaiday.'"
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