Where did I say half time?

I said half time, and it was tongue-in-cheek.

Realistically though, I just can't see us winning on Saturday. And I genuinely believe our squad now is worse than those 3 results you gave above, and in 2 of the games we were 2 scores adrift.

If I was a betting man, I'd be putting money on a NZ win byt more than 12 points, but I desperately want the team to prove me wrong.

I think the result largely depends on whether our forwards in the first 10 minutes will give us a platform that our backs can build on. If the Kiwis get a good start, it might turn into the riot some people are predicting.

Also, if we start well it will give the less experienced members of our team some confidence to play as they have been doing in SL.

you know the stat im looking at in that team line up???

3 starters and 1 on bench fron WIGAN ST PATS











which shows we have home grown talent in wigan if we look hard enough

You watch Wigan alot more than me, but how many we're easy finishes? The reason I ask this is because Gleeson is great at giving great ball out to his winger? Hardly going to go 50-60 metre's is he? I love how Wigan have brought the young lad's i.e Tomkins x 2, Mossop and Farrell who are all belters through the system, but Goulding smacks of Ade Gardner. Great centre = Improved numbers. Although I accpet he is very good defensively from what's i've seen.

That's about it more me, as harsh as that sounds on Goulding. I think Gleeson deserved to go as much if not more than Goulding and think it's a big mistake that he's not there.

Those with HD access note the game is now Live on the BBC HD Channel as well as BBC ONE.

Cheers Bilko.

what time does it kick off UK time please anyone?

8pm, coverage starts at 7.30.

thanks mate

8am surely.

Kicks off at 10 past doesnt it?

Bet that hurts!

He had more than his fair share of catch-it-and-fall-over tries this year but he did score a couple of belters. I remember one against Hull at the DW that he scored from about 40 yards out after beating two defenders. He's not length of the field quick but he's got quick feet and is capable of beating his man one-on-one, especially the bigger wingers he'll be facing down under, such as Tuqiri and Vatuvai

Yeah 8:10am kick off

ok then i will
jonh your an eternal optimist
we will get beat by 20+

Bloody a bit of build up aswell!

England will win the 4 nations!

England by 10 as long as Tomkins plays the full 80.

In my opinion they have Marshall (who is class but i also think is prone to the odd brain fart) I do not think they have much in the backs either, Vatuvai apart. I do not rate them at 7 over us. The front row is far from the best they can put out, Mannering in my opinion is the most overrated player in Rugby League but the other backrow players are class, but so are ours.

Just want to say, good luck to all the Wigan players playing tomorrow, hope they show the same kind of commitment and desire that they have all year for Wigan, and that they all come back injury free.

Good luck boys.

Stuart Fielden will score tomorrow... 90 yard run Steve Renouf style.
















You heard it here first

Lance at FB is far more experience than Widdop
S'au is better than both our centres.
Kenny-Dowall is one of the best in the world IMO.
Marshall is sheer class!

Are you being serious?