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| Quote ="Wiggin Uber Alles"come on now mate, the point is very clear
you say you have had this "issue" with your halves making you an incredible team that "no other team" could have achieved.'"
I haven't said we're an incredible team, I've said I'm proud of what we've done this year regardless of the result on Saturday.
Quote ="Wiggin Uber Alles"But you then go on to say that you win whether Saints win the final or not.
Thats not a prediction, its covering ones ass.'"
What are you on about? Why do I have to predict who will win? Why can't I be proud of the team regardless?
Quote ="Wiggin Uber Alles"So we are asking you, if Wigan win, will St Helens have lost, yes or no ?
Its just a simple question about that one question, as until now, all you have done is cover your bases.'"
You're right, it's a very simple question from a very simple poster.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I haven't said we're an incredible team, I've said I'm proud of what we've done this year regardless of the result on Saturday.
What are you on about? Why do I have to predict who will win? Why can't I be proud of the team regardless?
You're right, it's a very simple question from a very simple poster.'"
hmm so you turn to insults, when asked who you think will win the final ?
Classy, but we know a lot of your fans are like this, it puts shame to the good ones, but hey ho, its proof for the ones who doubted what we were saying.
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| Lol im sick of all you lot its gonna be a great game, you cant call it who knows what will happen
If we knew the result it would be boring, bring on Saturday!
This x, that y is irrelevant once the whistle goes
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| What a stupid thread. There is no talk of this at all.
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| It is a hard game to call and either side could win. St. Helens do have the experience in this environment which could help them against a less experienced side but the flip side of that is many of our youngsters will have no fear and play their hearts out whereas our older, experienced players who have been waiting for years to finally make it to a final after so many semi final defeats will push on and want to win for themselves more than anything.
The same can also be said for Saints but perhaps to a lesser degree. Either way, there is no point arguing about it as the scoreline is 0-0 and still will be until about 8:00PM Saturday evening - I for one cant wait.
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| Quote ="MidlandsWarrior2"Lol im sick of all you lot its gonna be a great game, you cant call it who knows what will happen
If we knew the result it would be boring, bring on Saturday!
This x, that y is irrelevant once the whistle goes'"
thats pretty much all was being said to the lad x and y arent the key, yet he seems very reluctant to make a prediction, and instead seemed to wish to go to insults
I did see his location is down south, so that explains a bit, cos we all know how important it is to them not to be wrong about anything, what with the joneses and that
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| God forbid that I will defend Saints fans, but as of yet I've not seen any of them discussing the WCC
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| All I have seen is people claiming that Saints are the underdogs, I would hardly call that 'unbearably arrogant'.
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| Quote ="Smurf"All I have seen is people claiming that Saints are the underdogs, I would hardly call that 'unbearably arrogant'.'"
was just reading the bookies are giving saints 4 point start for handicap betting for 80 minutes for the game, sounds about right.
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| Quote ="MidlandsWarrior2"Lol im sick of all you lot its gonna be a great game, you cant call it who knows what will happen
If we knew the result it would be boring, bring on Saturday!
This x, that y is irrelevant once the whistle goes'"
Exactly!!
From most fans of either club I have seen nothing but excitement mixed with nerves about the game. Most comments have been about hoping the game is as good as the build up for it!
As a Saints fan I am over the moon we have made it as at points in the season I thought we had no hope of getting close to the final, if we win it is just the icing on the cake. If we lose of course I will be disappointed but as long as its a good game I certainly won't be to upset.
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| Quote ="Wiggin Uber Alles"was just reading the bookies are giving saints 4 point start for handicap betting for 80 minutes for the game, sounds about right.'"
Im shocked Saints have got a 4 point start. I would of given them 2 at the most, in fact i reckon this game should be scratch both sides.
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| Quote ="gateaux"Exactly!!
From most fans of either club I have seen nothing but excitement mixed with nerves about the game. Most comments have been about hoping the game is as good as the build up for it!
As a Saints fan I am over the moon we have made it as at points in the season I thought we had no hope of getting close to the final, if we win it is just the icing on the cake. If we lose of course I will be disappointed but as long as its a good game I certainly won't be to upset.'"
another one !
who are you saying will win the final please
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Im shocked Saints have got a 4 point start. I would of given them 2 at the most, in fact i reckon this game should be scratch both sides.'"
no if you go to willhill.com the outriht odds are 8/13 Wigan 6/5 St Helens
quite a gap, but it represents the form to be fair.
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| Quote ="Wiggin Uber Alles"another one !
who are you saying will win the final please
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I'm not, my head says one thing, my heart the other.
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| Quote ="Wiggin Uber Alles"no if you go to willhill.com the outriht odds are 8/13 Wigan 6/5 St Helens
quite a gap, but it represents the form to be fair.'"
8/13 outright is a stinker of a price. I dont know what form you are talking about because Saints have lost 1 in about their last ten and we have deffo lost more than that.
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| Quote ="gateaux"I'm not, my head says one thing, my heart the other.'"
come on you can do it, let your heart fight your head and type it, we wont hold it against you, promise
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"8/13 outright is a stinker of a price. I dont know what form you are talking about because Saints have lost 1 in about their last ten and we have deffo lost more than that.'"
not my form calcs, those are William Hill's
I think if I am making a book for the game the key facts are
- 2010 all results
- how the teams have performed against handicap week on week, weighted to recent 6 weeks.
- injuries and team news
- liabilities on already placed bets for grand final winners ( such as yours truly )
so looking at 2010, Wigan have won more games, much better points difference, have no serious injury worries, and just about anyone who placed a bet on this game will have backed Wigan, we looked unstoppable at Leeds really really unstoppable, and the home defeat will have been allocated to ref error / cheating, we did actually deserve to win that game.
So for me I would have it as 6 points start for the scummers.
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| Nothing like a big derby game to bring out the Johnny-Come-Latelys
I've not seen many examples of arrogance from either set of fans. I think it shows how it's too close to call.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Or perhaps 2 GF wins in 5 years compared to none in 12?
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Correct me if i'm wrong but i thought we won it in '98...i'm sure i was at the match, 10-4 against Leeds i think if i'm not mistaken
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| Quote ="Spurry"Correct me if i'm wrong but i thought we won it in '98...i'm sure i was at the match, 10-4 against Leeds i think if i'm not mistaken'"
The poster I replied to was talking about 4 GF losses on the spin - so including a Saints loss in 2010.
If you turn it round (i.e. Saints win in 2010) it would be 2 wins in 5 years for Saints v no wins in 12 years for Wigan (99,00,01,02,03,04,05,06,07,08,09,10).
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"The poster I replied to was talking about 4 GF losses on the spin - so including a Saints loss in 2010.
If you turn it round (i.e. Saints win in 2010) it would be 2 wins in 5 years for Saints v no wins in 12 years for Wigan (99,00,01,02,03,04,05,06,07,08,09,10).'"
OK , i get your point now
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| Quote ="Spurry"OK , i get your point now
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I'm not sure I even had much of a point so don't worry too much
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Or perhaps 2 GF wins in 5 years compared to none in 12?
One of our GF wins came at a time you were cheating to avoid relegation, not sure laughing at teams for making GFs is the domain of the Wigan fan recently . . . .'"
Would this be at the same time you were cheating to win a title . People in glasshouses and all that...
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| saints will beat wigan saturday
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| Wigan will beat Saints saturday
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