Are you a politician Prop Joe. Keep uisng statistics for your own purpose. Fielden has less errors per game than even Peacock. Or should we look at missed tackles. Cmon lets all use statistics like Joe does to suit his arguement.

James Graham 34 Missed Tackles
Jamie Peacock 25 Missed Tackles
Michael Vella 38 Missed Tackles.
Adrian Morley 38 Missed Tackles

Fielden 18.

If anyone think that Fielden is not one of the best props in SL at this moment in time. Is either an idiot or has no idea about the game. Against Lees he was the best forward on the pitch and on Friday he owned Vella. He makes errors but i'd guess that it less over the last few weeks than the start of the season.

Looking at Morely last night and Fielden on Friday and against Leeds you would question who of the 2 is in the running for MOS.

I don't remember mentioning missed tackles, i called him butter fingers as to me he does seem to drop the ball alot more than most forwards and i never mentioned stats until someone on here cried like a baby.

Regardless of his other attributes he's terrible at keeping hold of the ball and what's worse (for Wigan and potentially England) is it's usually down to opposition players winding him up.

It took very little time at all to prove you wrong.
YOU said that the stats would back YOU up ,I said "WELL PROVE IT THEN " and so far YOU have provided exactly 0% even though as stated i've provided some 200% more stats than YOU to get YOU going ,and we're still waiting hours later for your claimed proof that over 50% of all forwards had better handling stats than Stuart Fielden
PS. percentages of games payed against errors made as quoted by ME means both Carvell and Peacock have MORE errors per game than Fielden . HTH

But the real point to your post is the "i've no idea and don't really care." comments because your just a Troll who spouts crap, and what has his costs got to do with anything thats been posted on this thread ?

Sorry have i missed something, where did you prove me wrong? And as if i'm going to waste my day collating stats to prove a point on a forum, especially when deep down you know as well as everyone else on here that i'm right.

25000 posts though? You've obviously got the time so i'll come back in a few days when you've got all the figures together for us.

FWIW i chose 10 fowards at random last night and 9 of them had a lower error count than old butter fingers.

HHHAHAHAHAHAHAH thank you for proving without reasonable doubt that you really are thicker than my bulging wallet .

The answer to YOU providing the stats to back YOUR claim up then is NO , what a surprise.

Mate, you know where they are so go and spend your day looking for a list of forwards with a higher error count then you can post those 5 names on here to prove me 500% wrong, or something. Have fun - www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php

Mate, you know where they are so go and spend your day looking for a list of forwards with a higher error count then you can post those 5 names on here to prove me 500% wrong, or something. Have fun - www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php

Shock, Horror.

A Super League captain stated his team were good enough on their day to the Grand Final at O.T.

I believe a second rate dull coach also claimed similar, but it came back to bite his booty after the derby play off was over at half time.

Quote ="prop joe"Mate, you know where they are so go and spend your day looking for a list of forwards with a higher error count then you can post those 5 names on here to prove me 500% wrong, or something. Have fun - www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php'" I'll take that challenge. Fortunately the Mrs is out today, I have plenty of spare time and no shame whatsoever, and rather geekily found myself interested in the outcome. I've not looked at EVERY forward and missed a load but here's a few for you to ponder (actually only took about 5 minutes). And that's without going into averages, etc... Stuart Fielden - 18 Ben Harrison - 18 Joe Westerman - 18 Richard Moore - 19 Ben Westwood - 19 Steve Snitch - 19 Garreth Carvell - 19 Kevin Sinfield - 20 Lee Gilmour - 20 Jamie Jones-Buchanan - 20 Rhys Lovegrove - 20 Jason Chan - 20 Brett Ferres - 21 Ben Galea - 21 Danny Tickle - 22 Glenn Morrison - 22 Sean O'Loughlin - 24 Clint Newton - 25 Oliver Wilkes - 25 Joel Tomkins - 26 Oliver Elima - 26 Steve Menzies - 32 Jason Demetriou - 36

Quote ="prop joe"Mate, you know where they are so go and spend your day looking for a list of forwards with a higher error count then you can post those 5 names on here to prove me 500% wrong, or something. Have fun - www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php'" I'll take that challenge. Fortunately the Mrs is out today, I have plenty of spare time and no shame whatsoever, and rather geekily found myself interested in the outcome. I've not looked at EVERY forward and missed a load but here's a few for you to ponder (actually only took about 5 minutes). And that's without going into averages, etc... Stuart Fielden - 18 Ben Harrison - 18 Joe Westerman - 18 Richard Moore - 19 Ben Westwood - 19 Steve Snitch - 19 Garreth Carvell - 19 Kevin Sinfield - 20 Lee Gilmour - 20 Jamie Jones-Buchanan - 20 Rhys Lovegrove - 20 Jason Chan - 20 Brett Ferres - 21 Ben Galea - 21 Danny Tickle - 22 Glenn Morrison - 22 Sean O'Loughlin - 24 Clint Newton - 25 Oliver Wilkes - 25 Joel Tomkins - 26 Oliver Elima - 26 Steve Menzies - 32 Jason Demetriou - 36

....and 9 out of 10 posters on these boards aren't so transparent when they make things up. Pity you're not one of them.

Got closer to it then you guys did.

Again

Quote ="prop joe"I don't remember mentioning missed tackles, i called him butter fingers as to me he does seem to drop the ball alot more than most forwards and i never mentioned stats until someone on here cried like a baby. Regardless of his other attributes he's terrible at keeping hold of the ball and what's worse (for Wigan and potentially England) is it's usually down to opposition players winding him up.'" Funny that isnt it you quote 'stats' people post them proving hes makes much less mistakes than pretty much every other prop then its not about that what a tool you are Few more.. Tackle busts - no 9 on the top 25 (highest prop in the list) superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... 10&hp2=153

Quote ="prop joe"I don't remember mentioning missed tackles, i called him butter fingers as to me he does seem to drop the ball alot more than most forwards and i never mentioned stats until someone on here cried like a baby. Regardless of his other attributes he's terrible at keeping hold of the ball and what's worse (for Wigan and potentially England) is it's usually down to opposition players winding him up.'" Funny that isnt it you quote 'stats' people post them proving hes makes much less mistakes than pretty much every other prop then its not about that what a tool you are Few more.. Tackle busts - no 9 on the top 25 (highest prop in the list) superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... 10&hp2=153

What do you expect a captain of a team to say numb nuts 'we don't expect to win'

Quote ="MidlandsWarrior2"Funny that isnt it you quote 'stats' people post them proving hes makes much less mistakes than pretty much every other prop then its not about that what a tool you are Few more.. Tackle busts - no 9 on the top 25 (highest prop in the list) superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... 10&hp2=153 '" Nice try but how many people posted stats before i made the post you've quoted? You might want to go back to the start and read my posts properly before quoting tackle busts or any other stat. I said his ball retention stats must be some of the worst in SL. Nowhere did i say his tackling, busts or anything else weren't top drawer and i'm pretty sure on this very same thread i talked about him playing for England. Off you trot.

Quote ="MidlandsWarrior2"Funny that isnt it you quote 'stats' people post them proving hes makes much less mistakes than pretty much every other prop then its not about that what a tool you are Few more.. Tackle busts - no 9 on the top 25 (highest prop in the list) superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... 10&hp2=153 '" Nice try but how many people posted stats before i made the post you've quoted? You might want to go back to the start and read my posts properly before quoting tackle busts or any other stat. I said his ball retention stats must be some of the worst in SL. Nowhere did i say his tackling, busts or anything else weren't top drawer and i'm pretty sure on this very same thread i talked about him playing for England. Off you trot.

Well done but absolutely pointless unless you get the full list of forwards to compare.

Let's put it this way:


I didn't list anyone with less than 18 errors, so you can probably assume that's a fairly accurate list and rest assured there are not only 5, but at least 20 forwards with a higher error count than Fielden. I'm sure if we went to averages there would be some with a higher error rate bearing in mind Fielden has barely missed any games this year.

Care to twist your criteria any more to prove Fielden is just terrible?

Who said he was terrible?

OK then, if i must, later tonight i'll spend "5 minutes" like you did and i'll list as many forwards with less than 18 errors as you have done for those with more than 18. By your logic i'll then be proved right won't i?

Joe, you remind me of an X-Factor auditionee. Who clearly have no friends to adsvise them that if they open their mouths they are just going to make themselves look like the idiots they are

is this thread ment to be about mick vella or fielden???? why have a dig at fielden anyway, hes been awsome this year, i think hes had his best season in a wigan shirt this year!!!

here's 30 for you Cronus and i've barely scratched the surface.

korkidas 13
dale ferguson 6
nick scruton 5
andy lynch 15
glenn hall 10
jamie langley 12
craig huby 12
mitchell sargent 10
david ferriol 16
jerome guisset 12
ryan o'hara 8
lincoln withers 17
mark bryant 9
rocky trimarchi 13
karl temata 4
mcarthy scarsbrook 16
luke williamson 5
rob purdham 8
eorl crabtree 7
eith mason 4
david fa'alogo 14
ewen dowes 4
mark o'meley 12
lee radford 9
craig fitzgibbon 12
danny washbrook 14
mick vella 10
kylie leuluai 10
ryan bailey 10
carl ablett 12

You watch X-Factor?

and how many of these have played week in week out??