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| One swallow doesn't make a summer!
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| Quote ="zx636"One swallow doesn't make a summer!'"
How many games have you seen him play this season?
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| Rogues we will just have to agree to disagree here before we get into the my dad is bigger than your dad scenario. I hope you prove me wrong (I doubt it) for his sake.
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| Quote ="zx636"Rogues we will just have to agree to disagree here before we get into the my dad is bigger than your dad scenario. I hope you prove me wrong (I doubt it) for his sake.'"
I hope I'm right but I don't know. All I am saying is that you are judging him on two reserve team games, and making a comment about one swallow doesn't make a summer. You can't have it both ways.
He's second top try scorer for us at reserve level so far.
If he gets in the first team then he will get my support. As for the £75K I'll ask again where did you get from or would you like to retract it.
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| Quote ="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"I wouldn't say he's dropped off the first team radar at all; hes just not had the chance to prove his worth considering the form the lads have been in.
would you have him on the wing over goulding?
would you drop an experienced player in bailey, who is having a decent season, for pryce?
He will get a run out at sheffield and needs to take that chance to try and keep his place for the quins game.'"
There's no denying that it would be difficult for anyone to force their way into the current first team, even given the sudden rash of injuries. But the Karl Pryce of his Bradford days would have been there or thereabouts. I barely even hear him mentioned in despatches these days.
That's not to say I don't want to - I do, I'm just concerned that he never seems to be in contention.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I hope I'm right but I don't know. All I am saying is that you are judging him on two reserve team games, and making a comment about one swallow doesn't make a summer. You can't have it both ways.
He's second top try scorer for us at reserve level so far.
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But at reserve level he should be miles better than the rest of them, at his size, age & experience level, yet he hardly stands out (except height wise). Charnley & Marsh have both outplayed him in the matches I've seen so far, so on form they should be ahead of him in the selection order.
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| as said previously this karl pryce issue will rumble on. given that we have a new coaching set up all with a clean slate. Its a shame the coaching staff did not see something in him to keep him at least in contention of a first team game.seems to me he is way down the pecking order. I do not know what he earns, ive heard 75 k as well, but i dont know. hopefuly if he does get a chance he will take it. I cant see it to be honest.
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| If McGuire isn't satisfied with Feka and his work rate/fitness, then I cannot see McGuire encouraging IL to resign Pryce.
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| I'd like to see Pryce get a good run of games in the first team to finally show what he can do.
Although if Feka & Phelps can only get in through injuries then Pryce's chances are minimal.
I thought he would have been a good signing when he first joined the club but it just hasn't happenend for him.
Whether it ever will we shall have to see how things work out for him.
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| Get him out on loan to Widnes, easy.
With all the loanees of the cap I reckon we could squeeze another player in under the cap for the rest of the season, say....Shenton.
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| iv said it for the past 2 or 3 seasons, hes e, he cant even got a look in with a new man in charge, if hes soo good how are mossop, farrell and tuson getting a look in before him, the sooner we get rid and cash in on him the better
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| Quote ="aerofine"He will end up at Crusaders...'"
I can't see BN taking him, he didn't pick him at Wigan when we were in the play-off positions so he's hardly going to pick him for a team in the other half of the table.
TBH I can see KP ending up at Leigh/Whitehaven/Widnes. He's a championship player IMHO, nowhere near SL standard.
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| Quote ="Legend That Sorts It"iv said it for the past 2 or 3 seasons, hes poop, he cant even got a look in with a new man in charge, if hes soo good how are mossop, farrell and tuson getting a look in before him, the sooner we get rid and cash in on him the better'"
A serious question, how many times have you actually seen him play. How did he do in that first season when he came to Wigan?
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| I said when we signed him that he wouldn't make it. He's never had the attitude to be a top player imo. I take no pleasure in being proved right, he just isn't up to it. Its a shame because he's got all the attributes to be a world-beater! We've had quite a few injuries in the backs and Madge never even mentions him, says it all really.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"A serious question, how many times have you actually seen him play. How did he do in that first season when he came to Wigan?'"
e all thats what he did, why wont people admit he was a shocking sighning, he did nothing in his 1st year nothing in his second year and hes doin that well in the reserves this year we dont need him in the 1st team, i know hes had injuries, he gets injured after 10 minutes on the field because hes terrified, you tell me why madge hasnt tried him when carmont is injured, afterall he is a big imposing centre who is big enough to run through walls, rubbish he has no bottle and is nowhere near good enough to get in any team in super league
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| I'll ask again, how many times have YOU seen him play for Wigan?
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| I think you already know the answer to that Rogues
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| how many times has he played for Wigan? Superleague or cup? (not friendlies or academy/reserves)
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"I think you already know the answer to that Rogues'"
I have my suspicions.
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| iv watched him play every super league game hes played in and hes crap, iv also watched him for the reserves and hes good, but we didnt buy him to win the acadamy trophy did we
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| We bought him to be part of the Wigan squad and give him a chance.
You say you saw him in his first year, but he didn't play a game through poor diagnosis of his injury.
You say he is good in the reserves, yet some say he is lazy and not interested.
I'm not defending Pryce the player, whether he makes it or not only time will tell. What I am defending is his right to be given a chance.
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| When he has played in the first team his try scoring rate wasn't bad although he didn't look completely fit. Unfortunately some elements of the crowd (I wouldn't class them as support) booed him every time he touched the ball. I said at the time that that sort of behaviour is not on and I think if he did get a run out at Salford or Sheffield then the same idiots would boo him again. For whatever reason (and only they really know what the reason is) the coaching staff are not picking him for the first team. For that reason I think that despite how he is doing in the under 20s he is unlikely to get a new contract. If he gets the chance he should go out on loan to somewhere where he will get first team games even if that means the Championship or Championship 1 for a short while to get his confidence up and to show what he can do where he doesn't have to get past players in such good form to get a chance and where the pressure may not be as great. Playing in the under 20s he is in danger of stagnating.
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| Quote ="wiganermike"When he has played in the first team his try scoring rate wasn't bad although he didn't look completely fit. Unfortunately some elements of the crowd (I wouldn't class them as support) booed him every time he touched the ball. I said at the time that that sort of behaviour is not on and I think if he did get a run out at Salford or Sheffield then the same idiots would boo him again. For whatever reason (and only they really know what the reason is) the coaching staff are not picking him for the first team. For that reason I think that despite how he is doing in the under 20s he is unlikely to get a new contract. If he gets the chance he should go out on loan to somewhere where he will get first team games even if that means the Championship or Championship 1 for a short while to get his confidence up and to show what he can do where he doesn't have to get past players in such good form to get a chance and where the pressure may not be as great. Playing in the under 20s he is in danger of stagnating.'"
It's quite easy to say he should go out on loan, but for a start that involves there being clubs in for him on loan who can fit him under their salary cap (SL isn't the only league with a cap), and secondly it needs to be the right club. It's also not a case of seeing if he can perform at SL level like with some of the young lads, as he's already proved prior to his RU move that he can perform at SL level.
He was most definitely in contention but then picked up a knock, Goulding got a chance and hasn't looked back, and the rest is currently history.
I feel very deeply ashamed at the treatment he gets from some of our so called fans, both in the times he's played and here on this board. Two things it's abundantly clear that Wigan fans love over the years, is a good moan, and a scapegoat. When the scapegoat creates opportunities to moan without even actually doing anything wrong, then it's like Christmas.
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| you have to ask . If he doesnt get a crack in the next couple of weeks , with the injury list we have at the moment . When is he going to ????
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| To get a chance you have to earn it. If he earns it MM will play him ive no doubts about that. He obviously thinks he is either not good enough or he isnt doing enough to deserve a chance. He wont leave somebody in reserve who is good enough for the first team when we have injuries. MM has been spot on this season and I trust his judgement over anybody elses.
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