Over confidence was clearly a big factor, 78-0 we were up after 1.5 games, the players god carried away and it cost them.

Im not bothered as such that we lost, that was always going to happen, its the manner of the defeat thats left me deflated.

We need to respond on Friday so that the excellent start we made isnt lost.

Starting at half time at Wire to half time last night we had scored 96 points and conceded 4 in the last 2 games!!!! No wonder we got complacent!!!!

No.

The real test will come at the end of the season and can they take you one step further than noble could.

I think we will be in the mix, too early to tell.

Maybe a few astute signings from Maguire in the next couple of seasons together with our youngsters coming through may take us to new heights.

I'm certainly hopeful.

I was chatting to some Wigan fans at h/t who said we'll go unbeaten this year. i told them at the time it was bollox and i hope all who ran theyre mouths on here and them enjoy the slap down, its the first of a few.

40mins worth of poor rugby have defalted some people beyond belief in the same way that 4 and a half good games made alot of people go way overboard.

The facts are we're a good side and we'll win more games then we lose but as I said last week i'd still be happy with a top 4 place at the end of the season. Any talk of walking through this season and sweeping all before us was silly as is any talk of us being a poor side now.

That defeat last night should enable all Wigan fans to find a nice balance of where we're at.

I'm as disappointed as any that we lost last night, but out of 10 half's of rugby played, we've played badly once maybe twice and we got burned for it.

I'm with Nick, one bad half won't change my perception that the Wigan club as a whole is heading in the right direction, we look fiter, are style of play is better and in general the club is on the up.

Although I woke up a little miserable this morning my thoughts are now past the Bradford game and are focused on Hull FC and maintaining are 100% record at home, if we continue to do the good things in are game we'll be there or there abouts in all comps.

Last night we just switched off that's all nothing more, and I firmly believe that.

Spot on

Top 4 should be our aim, and a 80% win ratio will probably get us third or fourth spot, something which i will be happy with

I think the defeat will give the players a reality check, and i think we are very capable of beating hull on our own patch which will give us 5 out of 6

An 80% win ratio would probably get us top spot imo because the league is so tight but I don't really expect that.

If we lose around 7 or 8 games we'll be top 3 and thats a realistic ambition imo. We need to keep the form at home going and and try and improve our ball control, discipline and attitude(going simply on the 2nd half last night) away from home.

It's still happy days at the moment imo.

Were definatly a good side but were far from brilliant, theres Leeds Saints Wire Us Huddersfield who i think will be the top 5 in any order who knows, then Bradford, Hull KR, Hull FC, Cas and Wakey who can beat anyone on theyre day. Going to be the most competitive SL yet IMO. Great for the game of rugby League. I agree with how people go from 1 extreme to the other. We went from going unbeaten all year to going to finish 7th with a decent cup run within 40 mins

Thats the way it is with some Wigan fans and always have been.

If we win on Friday against Hull the Treble will be back on and some will be discussing where we should play the World Club Challenge next season.

If we lose we may aswell pack up for the season and start planning for 2011.

The bit in bold is why I think our win over Warrington will be crucial come the end of the season.

So true.

Nah, if you lose it'll be another wakeup call...a blessing in disguise!

In 2006 you had an enormous amount of blessings!

Mate, you're fooling no-one. You're only trolling so please use the thread provided.

He's not even an entertaining one.

what just because i don't agree it was a blessing in disguise im trolling?

get a grip, im stating my opinion and the comment above was light hearted. Geez.

No your not - your all over the place, where have you been the last few weeks when we have been winning? Nowhere to be seen on here, no doubt you will disappear again if we win next week

agreed.

We were never ever going to go 'unbeaten' all season and TBH we all knew this streak would come to an end soon, albeit, we didn't forsee it to be V Bratfut. I for one am still really impressed with the start to our season, despite the defeat, we are still an inform team.

COME ON WIGAN!!

Dave of course this is a possibility. However, how much of a motivating factor would it have been for Hull to be the first team to beat Wigan this season and claim a 'scalp'? I believe that Hull are a better all round team than Bradford and by the end of the season we will be closer in the league to them than Bradford. By this logic we are better off losing to Bradford than to Hull. I believe that Wigan will play better against Hull as a result of the loss than we would have done otherwise and if we go ahead against Hull we won't be complacent about it as we may have been otherwise. Unless of course we are unable to turn things round and lift ourselves after a loss, or the coaching team are unable to make the changes necessary to prevent us making the same mistakes, in which case we are in no better position than we were under Noble and your posts so far this season suggest you don't believe this to be the case. I genuinely think we will get a big kick up the backside during the week and throw everything at Hull, we have put in some good performances this year and a really poor half doesn't change that.

As Nobby said it's how you finish, not how you start that is important.

Hopefully the result will have 2 effects:

1. Ensure the Wigan players don't believe half the cr*p that is posted on here about them being "fantastic".

2. Shut some of the "MM can do no harm" brigade on here up.

I was also a little disappointed in MM's comments about how Wigan managed to throw away a 20 point lead.

"Matt Orford can burn you....."

What???!!

I'm sure he can, but the reason Wigan lost was on account of themselves, not Matt Orford.

Concentrate on the lack of intelligence, discipline and professionalism in your own camp Maquire, not on the skill level of the opposition.

You've taken what he said completley out of context, perhaps you need to read again what he said.

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Or perhaps your suffering from selective reading of his comments.

He suffers from selective reading of life mate, i'd give it up.