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| Quote ="pieeater123"Don't get me wrong, 4 games in and I couldn't be happier.
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1. I can't help but think that we are currently experiencing 'new coach syndrome'. Players looking to prove themselves to the new coach etc. This will wear off over time, so after 10 games we will perhaps see how we are going to run
2. Look at the teams we have played! 3 very easy home games against 3 teams which never properly turned up. I thought KR would come and really test us, but they never even got started. Yes, we beat Warrington but not even we can deny that for parts of that game we were second best, and towards the end of the first half there were some classic Noble tactics creeping in: lying on, daft pens etc. but hey I was just as happy and proud with the efforts of the boys!!
3. The defence is brilliant, the sort of thing a Wigan side has been lacking for years. For once I feel like we can actually defend our line. But no matter how much fitness we have done, defence of that intensity will take its toll. Easter could be bad for us. Leeds and Saints will take a lot out of us and there are easier games to have after that than Wakey. Winning 2/3 there will be a good effort.
Lets not forget that most people on here would have been happy with a 3rd / 4th placed finish at the ned of the year. If we have a slump, lets not turn the board into a depressed one!
Although, we are top of the league!! Fantastic stuff!!!!'"
If you maintain your current consistency you'll finish top 2, no problem and from there [ishould[/i convert it into a grand final appearence. But playoffs are tougher now.
Watch out for leeds in the last 2 months of the season, the sails will be up.
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| Quote ="ABP'"We've set a very good standard. Over the last couple of seasons our consistancy has been very patchy.
We'd play average one week, poor the next, then good, then average again, poor the next week, good the week after that etc etc
This year we have had four out of four very good performances. Should our form drop in one or two successive games then there will be pressure to get it right on track because we have already set our standards during these first four weeks. It's going to be hard and there will be spells when we're not performing with as much high intesity as we're doing now, but that's understandable. Let's hope Madge has control of things and know what to do should performances dip and let's hope the supporters can stay patient and ride through any poor patches that realistically are going happen.'"
the key is being able to win when you're not at your best, thus maintaining a high placed finish where you can turn it on for the last part of the season.
Generally though, if you aren't at your best early doors you get beaten, due to ''lesser teams'' having a longer off season and fewer internationals. That's why you often see upsets early on.
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| Some fans are at risk of looking incredibly stupid the way they are carrying on. We have won 4 games and we are playing really well as a team which is great but some of the comments on here suggesting we are unbeatble and we're going to put everyone to the sword are incredibly naive imo. The only decent team we have played this season has been Warrington and lets be fair the result could have gone either way, we weren't exactly dominant. We will improve in some areas but we will also lose some games, it happens as teams always raise their game against Wigan. Lets just take one game at a time and not give opposition fans ammunition to throw at us when we lose, whenever that may be.
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| Quote ="gpartin"some of the comments on here suggesting we are unbeatble and we're going to put everyone to the sword'"
Evidence please.
Nobody has said such a thing.
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| I don't recall anyone saying we are unbeatable. Just alot of confident people liking the way the team are playing and the way they are being coached. Calm down mate.
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| Quote ="CAM."Evidence please.
Nobody has said such a thing.'"
They have to be fair. I don't mind it though, it's been a long time since we've had anything to shout about so let's enjoy it while it lasts.
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| I dont think anyone has said we are unbeatable or at least not from what i have read.
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| Quote ="gpartin"Some fans are at risk of looking incredibly stupid the way they are carrying on. We have won 4 games and we are playing really well as a team which is great but some of the comments on here suggesting we are unbeatble and we're going to put everyone to the sword are incredibly naive imo. The only decent team we have played this season has been Warrington and lets be fair the result could have gone either way, we weren't exactly dominant. We will improve in some areas but we will also lose some games, it happens as teams always raise their game against Wigan. Lets just take one game at a time and not give opposition fans ammunition to throw at us when we lose, whenever that may be.'"
Please quote anyone with such "arrogant" comments.
Majority on here agree that Top 3/4 is very achievable, not seen anything of such to suggest we're going to go "Unbeaten".
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| There are now 3 treads going about the same subject
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| Quote ="Grimmy"They have to be fair. I don't mind it though, it's been a long time since we've had anything to shout about so let's enjoy it while it lasts.'"
Who? Find the posts and link them.
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| Quote ="gpartin"Some fans are at risk of looking incredibly stupid the way they are carrying on. We have won 4 games and we are playing really well as a team which is great but some of the comments on here suggesting we are unbeatble and we're going to put everyone to the sword are incredibly naive imo. The only decent team we have played this season has been Warrington and lets be fair the result could have gone either way, we weren't exactly dominant. We will improve in some areas but we will also lose some games, it happens as teams always raise their game against Wigan. Lets just take one game at a time and not give opposition fans ammunition to throw at us when we lose, whenever that may be.'"
I think you, like Warrington fans are confusing our excitement and confidence, with arrogance
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| Where riding the wave, cant see us getting beat until Feb 2020
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| Do we really need another one of these threads? I guess inter-fan banter is lost on you gpartin? I don't think anyone on this forum genuinely thinks we're going to go the entire season unbeaten so this rant seems a tad OTT
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| Quote ="CAM."Who? Find the posts and link them.'"
No, I don't want to pick on people for being optimistic so that people on here can have a go at them. I'm glad we're currently playing like a team that could win the league, hopefully it won't all come crashing down just yet.
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| As fans the Wigan people have stuck with this club through some pretty bad times over the last 7 or 8 years(by our standards anyway) and to me it's understandable that the very odd one is going a little overboard.
It's called excitment and I don't see why they should be made to apologise for that.
I'm sure the vast majority on here have their heads screwed on enough to see we're still a work in progress and we're a very long way of being the finished article.
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| Quote ="gpartin"Some fans are at risk of looking incredibly stupid the way they are carrying on. We have won 4 games and we are playing really well as a team which is great but some of the comments on here suggesting we are unbeatble and we're going to put everyone to the sword are incredibly naive imo. The only decent team we have played this season has been Warrington and lets be fair the result could have gone either way, we weren't exactly dominant. We will improve in some areas but we will also lose some games, it happens as teams always raise their game against Wigan. Lets just take one game at a time and not give opposition fans ammunition to throw at us when we lose, whenever that may be.'"
Hows having confidence in your side arrogant ?
Just because your concerned about what other fans think of you dont try and stop others backing there side with full confidence.
We've had hull kr thinking there the next big thing.
its been the year of the wolf for 20 years.
FC fans were almost buying there GF tickets this time last season..
i'm not seen a wigan side play like this for years..i'm confident we can win any team we face at this moment..thats not arrogant its confidences.
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| Sorry missed this before posting
Cruncher wrote:If we play as well as we've shown we can, we can beat everyone else in SL.
P-J wrote:At the moment I'm struggling to find a side in the league that could beat user
Along with other comments such as 'we'll d*ck um' and predictions about winning both cups which are dotted around, I'd say some are asking for trouble.
Maybe I'm just so used to us losing in stupid games and the new regime has changed all that but I think we deffo need to look at our wins in context before we start proclaiming ourselves as World beaters. Don't get me wrong I'm immensely positive about the new season and I hope the above posters and others are right but after years of wild predictions from Leeds and Saints fans in the 90's and Wire fans more recently I don't want our fans to get reputations along the lines they have.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"Hows having confidence in your side arrogant ?
Just because your concerned about what other fans think of you dont try and stop others backing there side with full confidence.
We've had hull kr thinking there the next big thing.
its been the year of the wolf for 20 years.
FC fans were almost buying there GF tickets this time last season..
i'm not seen a wigan side play like this for years..i'm confident we can win any team we face at this moment..thats not arrogant its confidences.'"
We won our first five games last year by grinding them out, we never played all that well. I can't speak for every Hull fan but even after winning 5 on the bounce I wasn't all that confident.
Wigan this year look way better than we did this time last year, as do this years Hull team. Should be a cracker a week on Friday. If we both get the job done against Cas and Bradford it will a top of the table clash.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"We won our first five games last year by grinding them out, we never played all that well. I can't speak for every Hull fan but even after winning 5 on the bounce I wasn't all that confident.
Wigan this year look way better than we did this time last year, as do this years Hull team. Should be a cracker a week on Friday. If we both get the job done against Cas and Bradford it will a top of the table clash.'"
certainly one i am looking forward to. I think it will be a very close game. If a certain mr long plays it will add to the spice of the game. I predict game of the season so far
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"Remember that 2010 is the year of the Wolf.'"
Wasn't that 2009?.....
No, wait it was 2008 wasn't it?
Hang on, I'm mistaken I'm sure they said it in 2007 or possibly 2006?
How often do they come around? Wasn't the last one 1956?
In all seriousness I think we can have the best of both arguments on this thread. The OP is right in everything he says and I agree. However, as this is the best start since 2001 and the Rugby on offer is entertaining, I'm going to enjoy it. In fact, I'm loving it.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Please quote anyone with such "arrogant" comments.
Majority on here agree that Top 3/4 is very achievable, not seen anything of such to suggest we're going to go "Unbeaten".
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1/2 is a achievable
3/4 is guaranteed
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| Over the last say 10 years of nearly getting relegated, losing some of our star players suddenly e.g. Barrett, Farrell, Radlinsk, Newton, Carney as well as young players in Briscoe Wild, Hock, getting beat 70 - 0 then 75 - 0 off Saints which is shoved in our face at every opportunity, 5 years of inconsistant seasons, 5 years of under achievement.
To all you opposition fans, you can all get bent! let us have our moment!
If we think we will tonk Bradford on Friday lets just say we are going to tonk them! It's called confidence!
Opposition fans can't stand to see the mighty Wigan do well and thats why after a good start to the season we are all up beat and genuinely exited about the prospects we have in the coaching staff and playing staff they are telling us to not get ahead of ourselves, calm down, you have had easy games, wait for your injuries to kick in etc etc troll troll.
Let's just enjoy being good again (as we don't know how long it will last, let's ride the wave) and if it offends or inconveniences any other fan of another team then tough titties! Get used to it!
Top of the league, we're avin a laugh!
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| Quote ="post"Over the last say 10 years of nearly getting relegated, losing some of our star players suddenly e.g. Barrett, Farrell, Radlinsk, Newton, Carney as well as young players in Briscoe Wild, Hock, getting beat 70 - 0 then 75 - 0 off Saints which is shoved in our face at every opportunity, 5 years of inconsistant seasons, 5 years of under achievement.
To all you opposition fans, you can all get bent! let us have our moment!
If we think we will tonk Bradford on Friday lets just say we are going to tonk them! It's called confidence!
Opposition fans can't stand to see the mighty Wigan do well and thats why after a good start to the season we are all up beat and genuinely exited about the prospects we have in the coaching staff and playing staff they are telling us to not get ahead of ourselves, calm down, you have had easy games, wait for your injuries to kick in etc etc troll troll.
Let's just enjoy being good again (as we don't know how long it will last, let's ride the wave) and if it offends or inconveniences any other fan of another team then tough titties! Get used to it!
Top of the league, we're avin a laugh!
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| Quote ="post"Over the last say 10 years of nearly getting relegated, losing some of our star players suddenly e.g. Barrett, Farrell, Radlinsk, Newton, Carney as well as young players in Briscoe Wild, Hock, getting beat 70 - 0 then 75 - 0 off Saints which is shoved in our face at every opportunity, 5 years of inconsistant seasons, 5 years of under achievement.
To all you opposition fans, you can all get bent! let us have our moment!
If we think we will tonk Bradford on Friday lets just say we are going to tonk them! It's called confidence!
Opposition fans can't stand to see the mighty Wigan do well and thats why after a good start to the season we are all up beat and genuinely exited about the prospects we have in the coaching staff and playing staff they are telling us to not get ahead of ourselves, calm down, you have had easy games, wait for your injuries to kick in etc etc troll troll.
Let's just enjoy being good again (as we don't know how long it will last, let's ride the wave) and if it offends or inconveniences any other fan of another team then tough titties! Get used to it!
Top of the league, we're avin a laugh!
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I simply said 'why shouldn't people be allowed to enjoy it' but I feel you may have summed it up better
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| Let's not calm down!
Let's enjoy the moment!
We are playing better than what we have done for years and its not Wigans fault that the rest of Superleague are talking about Wigan as being the team to beat.
This is brilliant and long may it continue
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